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« on: February 13, 2010, 09:40:13 pm »

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WTF
OMG
LOL
LMAO
FTW
[f/s]ML

And all those other things. So, who want's to help translate?
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 09:48:28 pm »

Pak, oeyä Eywa

POE=omg
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 05:53:27 am »

Pak, oeyä Eywa

POE=omg

Someone here may confuse that with nìNa'vi poe - I did LOL...

Na'vi stuff:

pxasik

skxawng

Pak, oeyä Eywa

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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 06:42:00 am »

what do these combinations mean, i know omg, but the other ones?
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 06:54:37 am »

what do these combinations mean, i know omg, but the other ones?

WTF - What the F-expletive
OMG - Oh My God
LOL - Laughing Out Loud
LMAO - Laughing My Arse Off
FTW - For The Win
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2010, 11:46:06 am »

Off the top of my head

NLSHTOT - very catchy eh!
nìtxan lrrtok si ha txìmil oeti txerìng
much-ADV smile so-CONJ butt-ERG I-ACC abandon-PRES
Smiling so much [that] my arse abandons me

But I doubt these sorts of things should be attempted so literally.

FTW - For The Win
Bit puzzled by that one

Eywa FTW!
Is that,
for the sake of the win?
in order to win?
etc. etc.
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« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2010, 12:54:53 pm »

Off the top of my head

NLSHTOT - very catchy eh!
nìtxan lrrtok si ha txìmil oeti txerìng
much-ADV smile so-CONJ butt-ERG I-ACC abandon-PRES
Smiling so much [that] my arse abandons me

But I doubt these sorts of things should be attempted so literally.

FTW - For The Win
Bit puzzled by that one

Eywa FTW!
Is that,
for the sake of the win?
in order to win?
etc. etc.

I can't speak with authority but as I understand it (For the WIN) is an Internet idiom. It is like saying TEWTI in Na'vi, or cool, awsome, or that is quite the excellent and pleasantly victorious outcome in english, and then combining it with an alternate use of (for the sake of) these.things-TOP.

I like this NLSHTOT. +
NLSHTOT will lead to victories with communication understood. +
NLSHTOT is humorous to me and it means humorously triggered responses, which is what I want it to mean.
= NLSHTOT for the WIN.

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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2010, 01:51:06 pm »

I can't speak with authority but as I understand it (For the WIN) is an Internet idiom. It is like saying TEWTI in Na'vi, or cool, awsome, or that is quite the excellent and pleasantly victorious outcome in english, and then combining it with an alternate use of (for the sake of)
Yeah, I couldn't quite figure out the structure of it to decide what version of 'for' we were going to need.

"For Queen and Country" seems a little different.

Anyway,

AKUKT - rough equivalent of IRL (in real life)
a krr uniltìrantokxmì ke tok
when avatar-body+in not be/occupy
When not in my Avatar

oe skxawng lu AKUKT

Edit: Shifted mì to the end of the noun.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 02:16:19 pm »

IMO - In my opinion

could be OF ( Or ORF ) which is Oe-ri fpìl (LIT. As for me I think )

I'm not good about the topical suffix, so feel free to correct me.


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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2010, 01:41:38 am »

IMO - In my opinion

could be OF ( Or ORF ) which is Oe-ri fpìl (LIT. As for me I think )

I'm not good about the topical suffix, so feel free to correct me.


Oeyä leftey ~ of my choosing...?  ==> OLF
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2010, 07:59:29 pm »

AKUKT - rough equivalent of IRL (in real life)
a krr uniltìrantokxmì ke tok
when avatar-body+in not be/occupy
When not in my Avatar

oe skxawng lu AKUKT

I'd swap the order of a krr to krr a, since uniltìrantokxmì ke tok is a relative clause that modifies the noun krr.

As it stands, oe skxawng lu AKUKT would translate to "When I am a moron, I am not in an Avatar." Switch to oe skxawng lu KAUKT and we get the "I am a moron when not in an Avatar" that I think you intended to say.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 04:06:05 am »

I'd swap the order of a krr to krr a, since uniltìrantokxmì ke tok is a relative clause that modifies the noun krr.
Sounds good... if you can swap things round like that and it does what you think.

Not personally seen it done before so this is very interesting.
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 04:54:01 am »

I based my suggestion on http://wiki.learnnavi.org/index.php?title=Canon#Krr:_noun_vs_adverb. While an explicit precedence for krr a in that order isn't given there, we know that the position of a relative to the modified noun is significant in other cases, such as fì'u a versus a fì'u. Generally, a is always placed on the side of the noun closest to the subordinate clause.

oe skxawng lu krr a uniltìrantokxmí ke tok
I am a moron at a certain time, that time being when I'm not in my Avatar.

oe skxawng lu a krr uniltìrantokxmì ke tok
At the time I am a moron, I'm not in my Avatar.


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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 07:54:22 am »

That's cool - seems logical to me.

And whilst it's possible it wouldn't be a valid form, I think you probably right. Not that my opinion counts for anything mind. Cheesy

Cheers mate, I'll have to remember this one.
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2010, 07:56:59 am »

What about these two?

HTH - hope this helps:
I hope that this helps you

sìlpey oe, ngaru fi'u       srung sivi.
hope   1   2-DAT this.thing help  do<SUBJ>


which should be SFS (sìlpey fi'u srung)


HAND - have a nice day:

ngaru livu     sìltsana  trr.
2-DAT be<SUBJ> good-ATTR day


would then be NLST

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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2010, 01:47:34 pm »

I'm not good about the topical suffix, so feel free to correct me.

All you need to know is that it is never needed and almost always wrong.

As for IMO, it would really depend on whether it is before or after the sentence it describes.

If after then it should be a Fì'ut Oel Fpìl. If before then it should be Oel Fpìl Futa.

So we get FOF and OFF.



As for the others:

WTF ~ Peu/hem/fo Fì'u/kem/po Lu Pak = PFLP

OMG = Fpi Eywa = FE

LOL = HeRangHang = HRH (Frommerian) Cheesy

LMAO = idiomatic, could translate using nìtxan to get HeRangHang Nìtxan = HRHN

FTW = A Fl<iv>(<ei>)ä = AF

FML ~ Pxasik Tìreyur Oeyä (dodgy) = PTO (you could add a pak in for more anger to get PTOP).



HTH = Sìlpey Oe Tsnì Fì'u Srung Si (correction of Aysyal's) which would be a bit long but SOTFSS. I'd probably just do Fì'u Srung S<iv>i (FSS)

HAND = l<iv>u ngar(u) sìltsan-a trr (correction to Aysyal's, the verb goes first in these constructions) which would be LNST. I might use Ngaru Fpom L<iv>u (NFL) though instead.

TYVM ~ ISONN

TMI -> FH?



New ones:

AFAIK ~ Fa Fì'u a Oe Omum = FFOO or Oe Omum a Fì'ufa = OOF

IAMNAL ~ Oe-l Lì'fya-t(i) Ke Ftia = OLKF or Oe-l Lì'fya-t(i) ke Ftia = OLF

ASAP = 'awvea Krr a Fko Tsun = 'KFT

BTW = tse = tse

FAQ = Tìpawm a Fko Pawm Nìpxìm = TFPN

FYI = Fte Nga Omum = FNO

IIRC = Txo Oe Zerok Nìeyawr = TOZN

IRL = Mì Hifkey = MH

ORLY? (from a discussion IRL with sezawte) = Nìngay Srak? or Kifkeyä Srak? so NS or KS

NRN = Ke Zene 'iveyng = KZ'

TBH = TìPuslltxe Nìngay = TPN

K = tam

SCNR = Ngaytxoa, ke Tsolun Ftäpivang = NTF

IAN (already Nìna'vi for you).




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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2010, 08:05:06 am »


"For Queen and Country"

Na'vi  society is a patriarchy, the clan leader, olo'eyktan, is a male.
The female counterpart is Tsahìk, the spiritual leader, but I don't think that's what you had in mind!
(even if brit monarchs, king or queen regardless, are also high priest / priestess of the 'church of england')

OK, so the above is fairly factual, what follows is total guesswork by a skawng who's cup is empty.

olo'eyktan is a male, and ends with -an, is this the suffix -an, showing that this is a male clan leader?
If this is correct then changing this to the female suffix would give olo'eykte (Queen)
The eastern sea clan seemed to have a female leader (but she might be tsahìk)
So, how about ...

Olo'eykte kllpxìltu si fpi.

Anyone with a cup more full than mine, can you show if / where this is wrong, any feed back welcome.


LOL ~ Lu Oeru Lrrtok = LOL


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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2010, 08:58:51 pm »

olo'eyktan is a male, and ends with -an, is this the suffix -an, showing that this is a male clan leader?
If this is correct then changing this to the female suffix would give olo'eykte (Queen)
The eastern sea clan seemed to have a female leader (but she might be tsahìk)

If the -an in eyktan were the male suffix, that would leave a root of 'eykt', would it not? It was my understanding that clusters can only occur syllable-initial. Possibly you might be able to get the meaning you suggest by making it olo'eyktane, but I'd feel very uneasy about using such a construction.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2010, 06:49:04 am »

I think your probably right. Irayo.

My understanding of linguistics is way too limited for me to try dissecting it properly, it was just a guess by a skawng who's cup is empty.

Is the sentence otherwise correct?
Olo'eykte kllpxìltu si fpi.
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2010, 10:25:49 am »

I'd go with Fpi Olo'eyktan Kllpxìltusì = FOS.

It's possible that olo'eyktan is actually a contraction of olo'eyktuan in which case, if talking about a queen not a king, olo'eyktue or olo'eykte would be ok.
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