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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2010, 01:44:28 pm »

yeah i hope so too
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« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2010, 12:16:52 am »

Actually, I think it would be better to teach them English and Na'vi at the same time. It would be like showing them a ball and saying "Ball, rum." and showing them a dog and saying "Dog, nantang". Ever since I started learning Na'vi, I thought "what harm would it do? after all, they'd speak both Na'vi and English."

Then again, I'd get calls from the teacher: "Ma'am, your son is calling the other children ayvrrtep again."
"Oh, don't worry about it, just say plltxe ni'Inglisi rutxe and he'll stop."

But teaching them only Na'vi? That would be cruel, because they wouldn't be able to speak with other kids at preschool, and their social skills would lag, and they would be outcasts until they learned English. If i felt the need to speak with my child in Na'vi, they'd definitely be learning English too.

Then again, it would be cool because then we could have private mommy-child conversations in fluent Na'vi. And when Mommy yells in Na'vi, you'd better shut up and fly straight!!
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« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2010, 02:22:28 am »


Then again, I'd get calls from the teacher: "Ma'am, your son is calling the other children ayvrrtep again."
"Oh, don't worry about it, just say plltxe ni'Inglisi rutxe and he'll stop."

Then again, it would be cool because then we could have private mommy-child conversations in fluent Na'vi. And when Mommy yells in Na'vi, you'd better shut up and fly straight!!

These both made me LOL. As far as this idea actually goes, I think I'd probably stop short of teaching them conversational Na'vi as a young child, but I would definitely use Na'vi idioms occasionally with the intent that they would rub off on them, just as each of us probably uses a handful of outdated phrases that our (grand)parents taught us.

Oh, and all swear words would be Na'vi swears. That way my children would have the advantage of being able to call other children aysa'noksiyu without fear of retribution.   Grin

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« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2010, 06:42:30 am »

Would you teach your child (if or when you have them) Na'vi? Would it solely be Na'vi like this guy did with Klingon or would you make the child bilingual? Plenty of parents teach their children their native language and the language where they live, so why not with Na'vi and your own native language?

As a parent my job is to give my kids the tools they need to live and be a useful member of society (and love them 'n all that) and, as far as I can tell, Na'vi serves no specific purpose in that so I would not ... it's pointless and (IMO) it increases the possibility that my child could become isolated from the others for being a freak (all I can say is trust me on this ... I know this happens).

If, however, my child subsequently expressed an interest in Na'vi then yeah, as long as basic stuff (homework, chores and so on) is out the way then yeah.

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« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2010, 08:29:28 am »


Then again, I'd get calls from the teacher: "Ma'am, your son is calling the other children ayvrrtep again."
"Oh, don't worry about it, just say plltxe ni'Inglisi rutxe and he'll stop."

Then again, it would be cool because then we could have private mommy-child conversations in fluent Na'vi. And when Mommy yells in Na'vi, you'd better shut up and fly straight!!

i can see that happening with me and my future children  Cheesy

and once you hear mommy yelling in japanese, or Na'vi u in trouble XD
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« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2010, 10:59:48 am »

As a parent my job is to give my kids the tools they need to live and be a useful member of society (and love them 'n all that) and, as far as I can tell, Na'vi servers no specific purpose in that so I would not ... it's pointless and (IMO) it increases the possibility that my child could become isolated from the others for being a freak (all I can say is trust me on this ... I know this happens).

If, however, my child subsequently expressed an interest in Na'vi then yeah, as long as basic stuff (homework, chores and so on) is out the way then yeah.

Keke

I have to agree with him, there's really too many hateful souls out there and teaching a child Na'vi may then ruin his/her social life.
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« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2010, 02:15:40 pm »

people are hateful even if you differ a little bit.  so say for example even without learning Na'vi my child takes after me (poor thing) and is different than the norms of their generation, like they enjoy mythical creatures, the paranormal or for the fact their sa'nok (and possibly sempul) are wiccan, and they maybe too.  either way they're getting picked on.  now i'm not saying to set your children up for being picked on that's not it i'm just saying it'll happen with or with out them learning. however i find one quote to be true.

"the test of courage comes when we are in the minority...the test of tolerance comes when we are in the majority..."
 -Ralph w. sockman.

teach them that being different is a good and healthy thing. yeah if my little ones when they get older don't have an interest in Na'vi i'll stop teaching them, and help them in languages they want to learn.  but think it might be a cool and possibly useful thing.  if they are in with the crowd they will not be able to see things from another perspective, swept away by the rules and regulations our society has placed on us.  have them branch away from the norms a little.  not totaly so they get animone, but so they can learn to be themselves.
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« Reply #37 on: July 05, 2010, 02:33:51 pm »

It took me until I was about 13 to finally find appropriate friends who shared my interests and tolerated my weirdness. And I wasn't exactly encouraged by my parents to be a computer geek or anything, so it's not something that's affected by how you bring up your children. I've just been weird and obsessive since when I was a baby, and it's all spiralled out from there. I don't regret it for one minute - programming is great, Na'vi is great, collecting old computers and consoles is great. The only thing I regret is that it took me that long to find like-minded individuals (on the programming side, not the Na'vi side Wink).
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« Reply #38 on: July 05, 2010, 02:36:48 pm »

Well, if there's one really nice thing about the Internet, it's that it has made finding people that share your interests much easier. Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: July 05, 2010, 03:57:24 pm »

MHM ^_^
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« Reply #40 on: July 05, 2010, 04:04:34 pm »

Actually, I think it would be better to teach them English and Na'vi at the same time. It would be like showing them a ball and saying "Ball, rum." and showing them a dog and saying "Dog, nantang". Ever since I started learning Na'vi, I thought "what harm would it do? after all, they'd speak both Na'vi and English."

Then again, I'd get calls from the teacher: "Ma'am, your son is calling the other children ayvrrtep again."
"Oh, don't worry about it, just say plltxe ni'Inglisi rutxe and he'll stop."

But teaching them only Na'vi? That would be cruel, because they wouldn't be able to speak with other kids at preschool, and their social skills would lag, and they would be outcasts until they learned English. If i felt the need to speak with my child in Na'vi, they'd definitely be learning English too.

Then again, it would be cool because then we could have private mommy-child conversations in fluent Na'vi. And when Mommy yells in Na'vi, you'd better shut up and fly straight!!

hes actually right about this it would make our children outcasts faster then you can say "skxawng!" Na'vi and english is a better sulotion then just na'vi.
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« Reply #41 on: July 05, 2010, 04:36:04 pm »

Actually, I think it would be better to teach them English and Na'vi at the same time. It would be like showing them a ball and saying "Ball, rum." and showing them a dog and saying "Dog, nantang". Ever since I started learning Na'vi, I thought "what harm would it do? after all, they'd speak both Na'vi and English."

Then again, I'd get calls from the teacher: "Ma'am, your son is calling the other children ayvrrtep again."
"Oh, don't worry about it, just say plltxe ni'Inglisi rutxe and he'll stop."

But teaching them only Na'vi? That would be cruel, because they wouldn't be able to speak with other kids at preschool, and their social skills would lag, and they would be outcasts until they learned English. If i felt the need to speak with my child in Na'vi, they'd definitely be learning English too.

Then again, it would be cool because then we could have private mommy-child conversations in fluent Na'vi. And when Mommy yells in Na'vi, you'd better shut up and fly straight!!

hes actually right about this it would make our children outcasts faster then you can say "skxawng!" Na'vi and english is a better sulotion then just na'vi.

Yeah, i got picked on enough when I was in school. I wouldn't wish that on my kid.
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« Reply #42 on: July 05, 2010, 07:34:21 pm »

yeah, i think that's what a lot of ppl were saying, they teach both Na'vi and their native tongue.  only Na'vi could be used more for home and the other for social places like school etc.
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« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2010, 03:37:58 am »

yeah, i think that's what a lot of ppl were saying, they teach both Na'vi and their native tongue.  only Na'vi could be used more for home and the other for social places like school etc.

And I'm afraid I think that's just stupid ... the only person you are truly doing it for is YOU and no one else. Let them make their own choice when they get old enough to do so but until then PLEASE stop trying to delude yourselves that you are somehow "benefiting" the kids by giving them "skills" everyone else will just laugh at them for.

Responsible parenting is about giving your kids the skills they NEED, skills that are genuinely useful, protecting them until they are old enough to stand (metaphorically) on their own feet ... it is not about inflating your own [expletive deleted] ego's!

It's bad enough religious people filling children's head with utter nonsense without doing in the names of planets & people that are not even real!

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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2010, 02:36:44 pm »

And I'm afraid I think that's just stupid ... the only person you are truly doing it for is YOU and no one else. Let them make their own choice when they get old enough to do so but until then PLEASE stop trying to delude yourselves that you are somehow "benefiting" the kids by giving them "skills" everyone else will just laugh at them for.

Responsible parenting is about giving your kids the skills they NEED, skills that are genuinely useful, protecting them until they are old enough to stand (metaphorically) on their own feet ... it is not about inflating your own [expletive deleted] ego's!

It's bad enough religious people filling children's head with utter nonsense without doing in the names of planets & people that are not even real!

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This is all true, let the Na'vi language rise among us, not force it upon someone else. The last thing a child need is another thing to get picked on for.

As for the discussion above, I have also been picked on as a child, due to being different. But things got better after I moved to a bigger school in 10th grade.
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