Pesu

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

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Still, I am having a hard time parsing pesu. We have no word I know of that takes a form that would attach to -pe+: su, tu or tsu?

I also don't understand why 'You and who' would be an adverbial phrase. This is, at minimum, a noun phrase which is the subject of the verb in this sentence. OTOH, as I have explored prepositions in my head, I can clearly see why thee would be considered adverbial. Even so, prepositional phrases can also be used as 'adjectives', and when so used in Na'vi, need an attributive -a-.

[Tirea Aean]

Still, I am having a hard time parsing pesu. We have no word I know of that takes a form that would attach to -pe+: su, tu or tsu?

pesu of course is just short for pe+ tute => *pesute -> pesu (which person, who?)
and this also means that tupe is short for tute -pe => *tutepe -> tupe (which person, who?)

I also don't understand why 'You and who' would be an adverbial phrase. This is, at minimum, a noun phrase which is the subject of the verb in this sentence. OTOH, as I have explored prepositions in my head, I can clearly see why thee would be considered adverbial. Even so, prepositional phrases can also be used as 'adjectives', and when so used in Na'vi, need an attributive -a-.

And this I pretty much agree with. Though I see it as a noun phrase which is the subject of the verb.

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

Still, I am having a hard time parsing pesu. We have no word I know of that takes a form that would attach to -pe+: su, tu or tsu?

pesu of course is just short for pe+ tute => *pesute -> pesu (which person, who?)
and this also means that tupe is short for tute -pe => *tutepe -> tupe (which person, who?)

I have been thinking about this a little bit, and have come to the conclusion that this words is unique enough that it should be in the dictionary. Does this word exist in any canonical sources or Na'viteri?

[Plumps]

A whole blog entry has been dedicated to that

[Tìtstewan]

Of course this word exist:

31. Hi. Who are you? OR Who is this (that I'm speaking to)? Kaltxì. Ngenga lu tupe / pesu? Fo lu pesu/tupe? Who are they? Tsapxesamsiyu lu pesu/tupe? 'Who are those three warriors?' Tsaysamsiyu lu tupe? 'Who are those warriors?' Ngeyä tsafkxilet tupel rengolop? Tì'efumì oeyä lor lu nìtxan. Who designed that necklace of yours? I think it's very beautiful.

Edit: Ninjad!

[Tirea Aean]

O__________O

Is pesu NOT in the dictionary? That would be shocking news to me.

EDIT: it is.

pesu: [pɛ.'su] P F inter. who allomorph of tupe

DOUBLE EDIT: and tupe too.

tupe: ['tu.pɛ] P F inter. who allomorph of pesu

What's this confusion all about then?

TRIPLE EDIT: continued discussion about pesu/tupe from this point will result in a split.

[Tìtstewan]

I'm would wondering if why these both words wereisn't in the dic.

TRIPLE EDIT: continued discussion about pesu/tupe from this point will result in a split.

Maybe you should do that, kefyak?

Edit: Maybe you mention, that tupe /pesu is the "short form" of pe+tute / tute-pe?


Edit2: Oel tse'a kemit a soli nga tsatseng!

[Tirea Aean]

I'm wondering why these both words isn't in the dic.

But they are in there...

TRIPLE EDIT: continued discussion about pesu/tupe from this point will result in a split.

Maybe you should do that, kefyak?

Edit: Maybe you mention, that tupe /pesu is the "short form" of pe+tute / tute-pe?


Edit2: Oel tse'a kemit a soli nga tsatseng!

[Tìtstewan]

I'm wondering why these both words isn't in the dic. But they are in there...

I've searched in the dic, and tupe/pesu IS there

tupe: ["tu.pE] PF inter. who allomorph of pesu
pesu: [pE."su] PF inter. who allomorph of tupe


...confusing!
Triple edit: Meh, I overlocked this line: "EDIT: it is."

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

Oe lu skxawng nìwotx!

I am still trying to figure out why I missed those words.

Txoa lu oeru srak?

[Tirea Aean]

Oe lu skxawng nìwotx!

I am still trying to figure out why I missed those words.

You're not a skxawng. Maybe it just slipped your mind for a bit.

Txoa lu oeru srak?

Absolutely! No worries.