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'eylan na'viyä
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« on: April 27, 2010, 04:38:22 pm »

because some of these projects came a bit to a standstill i decided to make a little project-summery for everything that has to do with translating software, operating systems and other kind of data.

if you haven't seen yet, also take a look at The Web in Na'vi

Summary:
Software/ProjectStatus(color)+Projectpage/thread link
Na'vi keyboard layout/ how to type1, 2, 3, 4, 5
"Proper subtitles for Avatar BD/DVD!"discussion
Operating system and otherdiscussion
"Conquer MS Word!!" & elseopen office spell checking, discussion, open office spell checking(old)
"Na'vi Firefox dictionary" & other mozilla applicationsspell checking for firefox & thunderbird , discussion, spell checking for firefox & thunderbird(old)
"Computational linguistics & Na'vi"discussion
"Na'vi - English Babylon dictionary"discussion,updated dictionary
Operain progess(>29%) opera spellchecking
Chromechrome spell checking
OSXspell checking for OSX 10.6+
Gnome/Ubuntuspell checking for gnome based applications under linux
Ideas:(Open source)
Audacity
7zip
notepad++
virtual box
vlc(big)
imgburn
open office(giant)
gimp(giant)
thunderbird(900kb)
Ideas:(Else)

trillianhttp://developer.ceruleanstudios.com/index.php/Talk:Trillian_in_Your_Language#Fun_Language http://developer.ceruleanstudios.com/index.php/Trillian_in_Your_Language not shure if this page is still relevant
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2010, 10:06:26 am »

At some point I'll probably have a go at translating the software I use - this means parts of KDE, Opera, Xchat, Thunderbird and OpenOffice.org. I'll obviously post anything I make, and I'll try to get it included upstream too...
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 04:41:08 pm »

i made a hunspell dictionary and plugins for firefox & thunderbird:
http://forum.learnnavi.org/your-projects-other-resources/navi-firefox-dictionary/msg202889/#msg202889
and open office:
http://forum.learnnavi.org/your-projects-other-resources/conquer-ms-word!!/msg203196/#msg203196
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 08:14:06 pm »

people, I just wanna say, the program by 'eylan na'viyä is awesome. X)
irayo. Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 04:10:13 am »

I'm translating Opera at the moment. I'm approximately 2% done.

How would I go about installing the Opera dictionary?
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 05:12:01 am »

it's the last item in the list. just follow the green link.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 03:35:01 pm »

I am approximately 7% done at translating Opera, after spending pretty much all afternoon and evening on it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 04:27:36 pm »

Thats quite a good progress for such a big application Smiley . i'm looking forward to see this project completed.

after making an opera spell checking dictionary i continued and also made one for google chrome:
its not integrated as clean as in opera or firefox but it works. (it shows up as danish dictionary)
to install it you have to select danish as spell checker in chrome. then close it and copy the da-DK-1-2.bdic file to:
-"%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\Dictionaries" under windows xp
-"%USERPROFILE%\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\Dictionaries" under vista or win7
-i guess somewhere in the home folder under linux.
when you open chrome again you can select danish as spell checker (which actually is the Na'vi spell checker)

like with Open Office there is no better way than this work-around.

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only for developers:
when you want to create or update a dictionary you need convert_dict.exe and <dictname>.aff & <dictname>.dic (both converted to utf8 and "SET ISO8859-15" (or similar) changed to "SET UTF-8" in the .aff).
run (in same folder) "convert_dict.exe <dictname>" to create the bdic file

* da-DK-1-2.bdic (9.34 KB - downloaded 4 times.)
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 04:48:44 pm »

I read here that hunspell dictionaries also work with osx10.6+
Although i'm not able to test it, i think it should work out of the box:
Copy the Hunspell dictionary .dic & .aff file pair for Na'vi to ~/Library/Spelling or /Library/Spelling.
The latter location will make it available to all system users.

it also works with gnome based applications, eg: many of the applications in ubuntu.
copy both files to /usr/share/hunspell/ and also to /usr/share/myspell/dicts/
how spell checking is switched on depends on the application.

* nvi.aff (2.61 KB - downloaded 10 times.)
* nvi.dic (7.01 KB - downloaded 12 times.)
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2010, 11:10:34 am »

I don't know much about spell checkers. Is there an easy way to convert hunspell files to aspell, or to use hunspell files in aspell? KDE uses aspell, and it'd be nice to have it in KDE too...
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2010, 12:49:22 pm »

15% done at the moment!


I've slipped in a little "easter egg" of sorts. When I release it, see if you can spot it in the translation!

HINT #1:
HINT #2:

Maybe someone familiar with this sort of thing can guess what I've done before I even release it Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2010, 05:56:44 pm »

I don't know much about spell checkers. Is there an easy way to convert hunspell files to aspell, or to use hunspell files in aspell? KDE uses aspell, and it'd be nice to have it in KDE too...
actually i don't know too much about spell checkers. i only found out that hunspell is quite widespread and then searched how to make packages for each supporting application. all packages are based on the same files. afaik hunspell is the only spellchecker that allows to define complex affixes. (hunspell was originally made for Hungarian because it wasnt possible to make a good spell ckeck with the existing alternatives).
If there was a script for converting(i didn't find any) it would unfortunately only work with loss of quality. i fear the only way to get an acceptable Na'vi spell check in Kde is to wait until they change to hunspell too.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 01:17:36 am »

For the keyboard layout, why not AutoHotkey

www.autohotkey.com

I wrote a simple script that replaces the c and b keys with ä and ì, but with a bit of tweaking you could make use of unused keys (best things that come to mind are -=/[]\, and stuff on the numpad, along with tilde (`), these keys could easily be remapped, you could even set up macros for ng, kx, tx, px, ll, and rr

here is the script i used for the key changes, I will edit this post when I do a few updates

{
c::ì ;
b::ä ;
return ;
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2010, 02:25:39 am »

I wonder if anyone on this forum has an Optimus Maximus... that would be fun to type Na'vi on Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2010, 05:18:27 am »

I wonder if anyone on this forum has an Optimus Maximus... that would be fun to type Na'vi on Tongue


i think this has also been mentioned in one of the keyboard threads and considered as a bit pricy  Tongue

i wonder how the wireing inside the keyboard looks  Smiley
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