Thanks for the responses.
I really apreciate.
sorry for letting you wait.
I found this REALLY FASCINATING. I confess that I was not able to make out the very clever phrase without looking at the spoiler, but I can totally see where you're going and I really like these ideas. I can also see assigning sounds to individual leaves from the Pandoran forest (they have so many different varieties) and having each be its own sound. The messages you propose would just decompose naturally and leave no trace. They could persist for quite a while, but eventually they'd fade. LOVELY. The bark (do they have bark?) of trees would not even be damaged.
I was also surprised how good this all fits together.
Assigning sounds to individual leaves is also a nice idea. I think besides that they could also be assigned to symbolism that has to do with usage, their role in the forest, the places they grow on, any or other attributes or maybe even other individuals. By using special leaves you can put emphasize on the letter or word. maybe this could also be used instead of writing down infixes/prefixes/suffixes in some situations.
I have LONG been a fan of Andy Goldsworthy
. If you don't know his work, I strongly suggest that you check him out. You'll likely find his books at the library. Netflix has Rivers and Tides
and you can probably find a trailer for it online.
Thanks, i did not know him. I took a little look and i will definately watch more from his work.
Certain leaves tear in certain patterns more 'normally' than others based on their veining patterns. This strikes me as another fascinating thing to explore. If only we had some real Pandoran vegetation to experiment with!!
Yeah, it would be awesome to get at least a bit more detail about some Pandoran vegetation.
Within the last days i made many of the letters. I did not make all of them yet. I have ideas for some of them but not for all and also not for the diphtongs.
Maybe i can also create letters for special words, infixes, suffixes or prefixes. This mainly depends on how many distinguishable patterns are possible. I could maybe break symmetry for these like i did for numbers but i can't tell yet how good this would work yet.
I also try to build in a little redundancy, so you could still read it when you look closer, even if something fell off before it should.
Some things i noticed and figured out:
-you can easily create symmetric patterns by folding the leave.
-when you want make a gap between 2 side veins grab it between your index finger and your thumbnail and then pull the tissue between out.
-when you thread in a narrow leave into another fold it before, pull i through little holes which should be as small as possible and then unfold it. When the holes are small enough you need to tear it therefore. but thats good because then it won't be able to fall off.
-you can do something similar when mounting rounder leaves too. (done with 'Rr and 'Ll)
-you can create 2 holes at once by folding a leave 2 times
(I think you would also figure out those technics quickly when you try it yourself and maybe also find new ones)
It doesn't look much better in this attempt but i think it would look much more beautiful in an pandoran forest anyway
And sorry, some of the images are not as sharp as they could have been.
There is an image limit, so i put it on the next post.
Fìkem si ayolo’ na’rìngä tompayä mì ’Rrta nìngay … Ke tsun ziverok slä tsalme’a fì’ut ’awlie fwa saronyul fayfne’upxaret txolìng fte eykivomum saronyur alahe fu suteru ta olo’ alahe tsenget a ultxa sivi fohu. Lu ’awsiteng fa tìngusop ayutraltsyìpit fu leykatem ayvulit (netrìp tsat ngal fìkem ke seiyi) slä tìkan lu tengfya.
This is actually done by rain forest tribes … I can’t remember where it was but I saw a documentary once where hunters left exactly these kind of messages to inform other hunters or people from another tribe where to meet. It also involved reshaping whole bushes or breaking/modelling branches (which you didn’t do, thank you very much) but the outcome is the same. Perhaps not a real alphabet but at least coded messages that get the meaning across
i wondered if this would be used by any tribe or civilisation.
Do you maybe remember any other details from that documentary so i could search for it?
the continent, what was else in the documentary, language of the documentary, when and where it was sent, or anything else