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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2009, 09:44:49 pm »

So every time I come across a tx,px, etc I can immediately know that it's a glottal stop?

Pretty much, there's doesn't seem to be an actually letter x in Na'vi other than it being after k, t or p to mark that stop.
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2009, 10:09:57 pm »

nope,

But the letters/sounds which exist in Na'vi are here. For now, at least this seems to be the best reference.

http://www.learnnavi.org/navi-phonetics/#consonants
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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2009, 10:17:56 pm »

nope,

But the letters/sounds which exist in Na'vi are here. For now, at least this seems to be the best reference.

http://www.learnnavi.org/navi-phonetics/#consonants


AH!!!!! Finally I'm understanding the ä sound. I've gotten about 20 different ways to say it from 20 different languages and I didn't know which one it was!

skxawng-a tutee-ti skxawng l<ei>u
Stupid girl is stupid
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2009, 01:44:03 pm »

nope,

But the letters/sounds which exist in Na'vi are here. For now, at least this seems to be the best reference.

http://www.learnnavi.org/navi-phonetics/#consonants


AH!!!!! Finally I'm understanding the ä sound. I've gotten about 20 different ways to say it from 20 different languages and I didn't know which one it was!

skxawng-a tutee-ti skxawng l<ei>u
Stupid girl is stupid


frapo       n<ìr><m>ume             fra'u         nìNa'vi            täftxu'lì'u.
everyone was just now  learning   everything Na'vi language word weave

frapo       n<ìr><m>ume fr<ol>a'u nìNa'vi täftxu'<ay>pam.
everyone was just now    learning   Na'vi   word sounds

Eywa ngahu ma tsmuke.
Eywa be with you my sister.

modified.

The grammar police have spoken to me...

ngah<ei>u is not allowed.
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2009, 06:14:09 pm »

For anyone looking for more auditory references of ejectives in human languages, this was fairly helpful:

http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/index/sounds.html#Anchor-Ejectives-47857
http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/course/chapter11/navajo/navajo.html

Audio seems a bit clearer than the other one that was linked.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2009, 09:38:12 pm »

For anyone looking for more auditory references of ejectives in human languages, this was fairly helpful:

http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/index/sounds.html#Anchor-Ejectives-47857
http://www.phonetics.ucla.edu/course/chapter11/navajo/navajo.html

Audio seems a bit clearer than the other one that was linked.


Good links!
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2009, 10:00:22 pm »

wow, this is some hard stuff to learn as i have never been a good language person. Do you think there will ever be a school that will teach this language because someone being there to guide me would help a lot more than just reaqding about it online. But I so want to learn this language.
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2009, 02:14:25 pm »

it helps to hop onto skype and listen to how people are saying the words plus you can ask questions and get feedback quickly.
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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2009, 02:31:29 pm »

http://forum.learnnavi.org/index.php?topic=69.0
theres the link to the skype post
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2009, 07:50:08 pm »

well they had to have had a tutor for the actors. when do you think they will have tutors for the rest of us?
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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2009, 09:47:39 pm »

I suppose it depends on how popular Na'vi becomes. I doubt Na'vi will ever be a language option in school, it'll probably end up more like Elvish or Klingon. Then again, in this day and age with the internet who knows.
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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2009, 10:26:38 pm »

you see the problem for me is there would be no one around who would talk the same language as me so it wouldn't be fresh in my head from actually talking to someone which is the fastest way to learn. As JakeSully said in the movie, "So I figured it was like field stripping a rifle. Repetition, repetition, repitition."
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2009, 10:20:26 am »

I can't help but wonder how many people are led to a more serious study of language by things like Na'vi, Klingon before it and even Tolkien's elvish languages before that. Who else but a devoted fan of Star Trek is going to learn how to pronounce Klingon's lateral affricate consonant? And who else but a fan of the Na'vi is going to learn ejectives? Ejectives are quite common in native languages of the Americas. Perhaps some current Na'vi fan will move on to an endangered language like Navajo or one of the Mayan languages.

That would definitely be me... I discovered my love for linguistics through Quenya, especially Helge Fauskanger's wonderful "Ardalambion" site: his Quenya Course could be an introductory linguistics one, as it is written for people with no background whatsoever.

My family has had to get used to weird sounds when I'm around, from velarized plosives to pharyngeal consonants (Arabic REALLY sounds like you're going to cough something up sometimes...) Smiley
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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2009, 07:58:40 pm »

ok well, would there be anyone willing to be paid for a one on one type deal in the future. could be money to that idea for those that already know it.
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2010, 01:20:01 am »

Frommer gave a brief explanation of ejectives in this interview. Its nice to hear them in action...


This link seems to be broken. Could you put up a new one or tell me what to look up on youtube or something?

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