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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2013, 08:03:17 am »
PM sent. ;)
I think, we did a good job. :)

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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2013, 08:16:32 am »
PM sent. ;)
I think, we did a good job. :)
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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2013, 03:35:48 pm »
Update:
Files are on LN.org website!

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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2013, 03:44:24 pm »
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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2013, 11:51:27 pm »
Kaltxì ayngaru!

Please check out this thread for new (reworked) files here! :D


Edit: I changed the link. For the new content, just scroll down.
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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2013, 01:51:33 am »
Kaltxì ma Tìtstewan


Kaltxì ayngaru!

Please check out this thread for new (reworked) files here! :D
Txantsana säfpìl !

Your topic is an awesome idea ;)
Did you see the changes i made inside your document for the Na'vi fpi Aysxkawng ? (page 400 to 409)  ;)

If your pdf inside the topic are the reworked, you still copy small mistakes  :o

46110 7158 kizamvomrr kizam-vo-mrr  (not *kizamvohin;) )
=> use the same colors than the Ln website, it will be esaier for beginners  ;)

old gallery link?id=4889[/img]



French translation for "Ordinal number" is "nombre ordinal", not "ordinaire"



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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2013, 03:18:23 am »
Kaltxì ma Xelloss!

Thanks for reporting that mistakes. I will fix it, if I'm at home.
This is a good idea to write out the first numders and useing the same colors. (Did you can say me the hex-number or RGB for the colors like on the website?)

Kameyu are translated it. ;)

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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2013, 04:52:11 am »
Kaltxì ma Tìtstewan

Here is the colors :

1111110    255478    
2*8*8*8*8+5*8*8*8+5*8*8+4*8+7
me-zazam-mrr-vozam-mrr-zam-tsì-vo--hin

red :  #ff0000
blue : #0000ff
pink: #ff00ff
green : #00cc00
orange : #ff9900



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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2013, 07:05:28 am »
Kaltxì ma Xelloss!

Here is the colors :

1111110    255478    
2*8*8*8*8+5*8*8*8+5*8*8+4*8+7
me-zazam-mrr-vozam-mrr-zam-tsì-vo--hin
Or useing this code: [nobbc] ... [/nobbc]
[color=#ff0000]2*8*8*8*8[/color]+[color=#0000ff]5*8*8*8[/color]+[color=#ff00ff]5*8*8[/color]+[color=#00cc00]4*8[/color]+[color=#ff9900]7[/color]
[color=#ff0000]me-zazam[/color]-[color=#0000ff]mrr-vozam[/color]-[color=#ff00ff]mrr-zam[/color]-[color=#00cc00]tsì-vo[/color]--[color=#ff9900]hin[/color]
 ;)
Irayo nìtxan!

Kaltxì ayngaru!

Please check out this thread for new (reworked) files here! :D
Txantsana säfpìl !

Your topic is an awesome idea ;)
Did you see the changes i made inside your document for the Na'vi fpi Aysxkawng ? (page 400 to 409;)
Ouiii, I see it the first time. Its looks really great! Seysonìltsan ma Xelloss! Karma ngaru nang!
Do you would have the Excel file with the new tables?

If your pdf inside the topic are the reworked, you still copy small mistakes  :o

46110 7158 kizamvomrr kizam-vo-mrr  (not *kizamvohin;) )
:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ I wondering why I didn't saw it. Ma Eywa, oel ke tse'a! :-X :-X :-[ :-[
I fixed it. :)

=> use the same colors than the Ln website, it will be esaier for beginners  ;)

old gallery link?id=4889[/img]

I will add the numbers (46110 / 7158). The colors, I think I don't change it, because there is showed every component to build the numbers. That website is quiet qood as octal/decimal converter. If a beginner start to learning the numbers, he would use our files for learning. The structure of the Na'vi numbers was my important point on this document. That's why I colorated the numbers and the text, so the beginner get an 'feeling' how the numbers is build and work.
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six fois 64 + 0 + 0
I would not write + 0 + 0 , that maybe cause confusion. In the Dutch forum section I had to explain a member what I mean with it. That was also a choise to delete some words in my document.

French translation for "Ordinal number" is "nombre ordinal", not "ordinaire"
Fixed! :)

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Updating the files fast as possible!

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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2013, 09:05:00 am »


=> use the same colors than the Ln website, it will be esaier for beginners  ;)

old gallery link?id=4889[/img]
I reworked it like following example:
old gallery link?id=4891[/img]
 :)

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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2013, 04:05:13 am »
Sorry for double post... :-[

I was able to write that in code. :)

Trois cents quatre-vingt-quatrepuzampu- + zamsix fois  64
38410 6008 6  x  10086  x  6410
Quatre cents soixante-et-unkizamvomrr    ki- + zam + vo + -mrr   sept fois  64  +  8  +  5
46110 7158 7  x  1008 +  108 + 57  x  6410 +  810 +  5
Quatre cents quatre-vingt-dix-huit   kizampuvomun  ki- + zam + pu- + vo + -mun   sept fois  64 + six fois  8 + 2
49810 7628 7  x  1008 +  6  x  108 +  27  x  6410 +  6  x  810 +  2

:o :o :-X


Edit:
First post changed. :)

Edit 2:
I've removed all attached files on my posts, because is not needed anymore. Doing something good for the LN server. :)
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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2013, 10:41:07 am »
Kaltxì ma Tìtstewan

Txantsana tìkangkem ;)

=> nari si :

I think change colors is not a good idea and begeners could folow a wrong way

example : 46110
The octal vaw of counting is 7*8*8 + 1*8 + 5 that is why they wrote ki-zam - vo  - mrr

Because ki-zam is one number on the zam base  ;)


old gallery link?id=4891[/img]

in this example, this is the same story, with 49810we can't dissociate ki & zam and pu & vo, so we need use same colors  :D




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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2013, 11:39:02 am »
Kaltxì ma Xelloss!

If I watch the first table of the base structure of the numbers here:
Nombre       Na’vi                Base      Reste
0kew   
1'aw  -aw[...]

7*8*8 + 1*8 + 5 that is why they wrote ki-zam - vo  - mrr
This would be possible to write like this, kefyak?:
7*[8*8] + 1*[8] + 5 that is why they wrote ki-zam - vo  - mrr

I think, it is like our decimal system here.
200 = 2*10*10 = 2*102 = two hundred = 2*100
700 = 7*10*10 = 7*102 = seven hundred = 7*100
9,000 = 9*10*10*10 = 9*103 = nine thousand = 9*1,000
5,000,000= 5*10*10*10*10*10*10 = 5*106 = five milion = 5*1,000,000

Or I have a big knot in my head?

However, I like to talk with you about it, so we can develope it to be our learning resource better and better. :D


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Ma Eywa! :-X :o What would be happend if you comes back home to the Kelutral without a Yerik? ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2013, 03:25:41 pm »
How about this idea? :-\





Trois cents quatre-vingt-quatrepuzampu- + zamsix fois  64
38410 6008 6  x  10086  x  6410




38410 6008 ( 6 * 8 * 8 ) + ( 0 * 8 ) + 0pu-zam




Quatre cents soixante-et-unkizamvomrr    ki- + zam + vo + -mrr   sept fois  64  +  8  +  5
46110 7158 7  x  1008108 + 57  x  64108105




46110 7158 ( 7 * 8 * 8 ) + ( 1 * 8 ) + 5ki-zam-vo-mrr




Quatre cents quatre-vingt-dix-huit   kizampuvomun  ki- + zam + pu- + vo + -mun   sept fois  64 + six fois  8 + 2
49810 7628 7  x  10086  x  10827  x  64106  x  8102




49810 7628 ( 7 * 8 * 8 ) + ( 6 * 8 ) + 2ki-zam-pu-vo-mun






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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2013, 01:34:53 am »
Kaltxì ma Tìtstewan

hmmm ulte
Ha !

Sunu oer fìsäfpìl nang !

How a gorgeous idea, we can make the differnece between Humandecimal and Na'vioctal numbers via the colors !
Karma ngar nang !  :D



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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2013, 01:01:22 pm »
Kaltxì ma Xelloss!

 :-[ Oe irayo si ngaru nìtxan!
Oe lu nitram nìtxan, ngaru sunu fwa. :D

It will take some days to updates all files and threads with this new table. Also I will optimize the tables.
(Oh, I need to write a new PM to Markì... :-X :-[)

Very nice that we both work together. Thanks! :-*

Edit:
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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2013, 04:34:20 pm »
T'as 3000 posts? C'est la fête!

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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2013, 05:41:10 pm »
Ma Kameyu

HRH!
Do you beleave I'm just the next one? ;D
Oeyä postì amrrvozampuzamkivol 8)


So, I do a little mod:




Trois cents quatre-vingt-quatrepuzampu- + zamsix fois  64
38410 6008 6  x  10086  x  6410




38410 6008 ( 6 * 8 * 8 ) + ( 0 * 8 ) + 0pu-zam




Quatre cents soixante-et-unkizamvomrr    ki- + zam + vo + -mrr   sept fois  64  +  8  +  5
46110 7158 7  x  1008 +  108 + 57  x  6410 +  810 +  5




46110 7158 ( 7 * 8 * 8 ) + ( 1 * 8 ) + 5ki-zam-vo-mrr




Quatre cents quatre-vingt-dix-huit   kizampuvomun  ki- + zam + pu- + vo + -mun   sept fois  64 + six fois  8 + 2
49810 7628 7  x  1008 +  6  x  108 +  27  x  6410 +  6  x  810 +  2




49810 7628 ( 7 * 8 * 8 ) + ( 6 * 8 ) + 2ki-zam-pu-vo-mun




Hopefully it's look a bit better. :)
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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2013, 03:34:46 am »
Kaltxì ma smuktu

Sran 3000a 'upxare, txantsan ;)


Ma Tìtstewan using colors inside the number is a a goo idea ;)

=> Nari si
I think we need to see if sames colors are in Decimal and Octal, and change decimal color
In the number 498, ki- + zam + pu- + vo + -mun, "vo" is in orange
and in the description the "2" have the same color ( 7 * 8 * 8 ) + ( 6 * 8 ) + 2

I thik changing the "vo" color could wipe'out any confusion  :D ;)



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Re: Le système de numération Na’vi
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2013, 03:54:26 am »
Kaltxì ma Xelloss!

Ma Tìtstewan using colors inside the number is a a goo idea ;)

=> Nari si
I think we need to see if sames colors are in Decimal and Octal, and change decimal color
In the number 498, ki- + zam + pu- + vo + -mun, "vo" is in orange
and in the description the "2" have the same color ( 7 * 8 * 8 ) + ( 6 * 8 ) + 2

I thik changing the "vo" color could wipe'out any confusion  :D ;)
Indeed. That is the next step, which I will change. At the moment I don't know which colour I will use, but a idea will come anytime.
I also think about the idea to add a fourth example with a larger number on this table.

However, if is everythig done, I will update the posts and documents. ;) :-*
The PDF file will be online, if I have got the Dutch translation.

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