Arguments of gerunds

Started by 'Oma Tirea, September 06, 2011, 02:06:45 AM

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'Oma Tirea

This has been in my mind for a while...

Quote from: Horen leNa'vi
Gerunds...may not take subjects or direct objects

...but what about the genitive case?  Indirect objects such as the dative, topical, and adpositions?

If anything, it's starting to look like the genitive is the most likely suffix to be safely applied to a gerund.

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Lance R. Casey

The gerund itself is perfectly able to be declined for case, but "X's Y-ing" or "Y-ing of X" wanders into core argument territory. Adverbs are apparently allowed, though.

// Lance R. Casey

Blue Elf

That's interesting, but here is different opinion (see here). Probably Pawl should judge this.
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Quote from: Blue Elf on September 06, 2011, 09:28:45 AM
That's interesting, but here is different opinion (see here). Probably Pawl should judge this.
A canonical quote from Dr. Frommer certainly carries far more weight than my uneducated opinion. I'll retract the statement you linked to.
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Blue Elf

Ok, I saw that. It's good to see that it's possible to use gerund with some modifier
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)