Questions about modal verbs

[omängum fra'uti]

That's so...  simple that it makes sense.  "I need moving-him-here help"...  Boy do I feel na skxawng now.

[Kì'eyawn]

Skxawng ke lu.  I can't even imagine an alternate universe in which i ever would have thought of roger's sentence.

[Carborundum]

Well your fwa usage is certainly wrong, because fwa is only for intransitive verbs.  It's literally "fì'u a" - and since you can't say "Oel srungit kin fì'u" it isn't correct.

I know, that's why I didn't do it like that. But I figured that if I were to make srung the object of kin, fi'u couldn't also take the accusative case. In retrospect, it does seem infuriatingly obvious that one should simply remove it altogether.

[roger]

Well, if it helps any, that is how languages like Japanese, Korean, and Turkish work, so if you're familiar with one of them, it's pretty straight-forward.

[Carborundum]

I just thought about something; there might be little or no difference between "need" and "must" in affirmative statements (I need to sleep vs. I must sleep), but there is certainly a difference in their negative counterparts.
I need not sleep (for I am not tired)
I must not sleep (else the thanator will get me)

[roger]

I just thought about something; there might be little or no difference between "need" and "must" in affirmative statements (I need to sleep vs. I must sleep), but there is certainly a difference in their negative counterparts.
I need not sleep (for I am not tired)
I must not sleep (else the thanator will get me)

Zenke "must not", ke zene "don't need to/don't have to" -- still the same word!

In English there's s.t. of a diff tween social obligation (must) and physical or emotional necessity (need), but we're not very good at maintaining it.

[Tsamsiyu92]

..."Will"...

Isn't that what the infixes <isy> and <asy> are for, Oe tisyaron, means i will hunt (near future), with the "will" emphasised.

[roger]

Yes, archaic sense of 'will', now generally only found in English when stressed.

[kewnya txamew'itan]

..."Will"...

Isn't that what the infixes <isy> and <asy> are for, Oe tisyaron, means i will hunt (near future), with the "will" emphasised.

They're probably closer to an affirmative shall.

I shall hunt: oe tasyaron VS I will hunt: oe tayaron.