Why is there no "c"?

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Tirea Aean

Quote from: Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn on July 03, 2010, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 03, 2010, 07:13:24 PM
Quote from: Kemaweyan on July 03, 2010, 06:30:03 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 03, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
ое цун цливам нифтуе. ;)

Омум оел цат :D Айое памллтъэ фы'утери мы фтаунемкрр ;) Нынгай фы'у ламу нгейе сефпыл а фы'у лам оер, кефйак? ;D


Сране. Нынгай фы'у ламу оейе сефпыл...;) айхрр а ое пллтъе фыфйа фпыл сутел фута пллтъе ое ныРусский нанг! ;D

Русский это одно, но Na'vi на русском языке для меня невозможно XD

Hope my Russian doesn't suck that bad, double checked with a translator and it seems fine but I'm not so sure.

Haha. Na'vi in Cyrillic was my idea and I used it over in the Russian Na'vi only chat thread and it probably either made them laugh or make a weird face HRH. They seemed to like it. I think its kinda funny. I wont torture the community outside the Russkiy board with Cyrillic Na'vi transcriptions heheh.

Kemaweyan

Quote from: Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn on July 03, 2010, 07:44:43 PM
Русский это одно, но Na'vi на русском языке для меня невозможно XD

Hope my Russian doesn't suck that bad, double checked with a translator and it seems fine but I'm not so sure.

Tewti! Это великолепно, совсем без ошибок и по стилю правильно ;) Fì'u lu txantsan ulte luke keyey.

Quote from: Peyä Tìrol on July 03, 2010, 07:29:07 PM
English also lacks the trilled rr, and our "normal" r is pronounced quite differently than it is in Na'vi. I don't know how to explain it correctly, but the tip of the tongue floats with an English r, and briefly contacts the alveolar ridge behind the teeth in the Na'vi one, sort of like in Spanish. (I think, at least)

I doubt there's a single language that uses every possible sound, and letters or combinations of letters are just ways of representing the various sounds that Na'vi has.

I think, this sound is like russian "r" ("р"), but longer...
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

'Oma Tirea

Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 03, 2010, 07:48:54 PM
Quote from: Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn on July 03, 2010, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 03, 2010, 07:13:24 PM
Quote from: Kemaweyan on July 03, 2010, 06:30:03 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 03, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
ое цун цливам нифтуе. ;)

Омум оел цат :D Айое памллтъэ фы'утери мы фтаунемкрр ;) Нынгай фы'у ламу нгейе сефпыл а фы'у лам оер, кефйак? ;D


Сране. Нынгай фы'у ламу оейе сефпыл...;) айхрр а ое пллтъе фыфйа фпыл сутел фута пллтъе ое ныРусский нанг! ;D

Русский это одно, но Na'vi на русском языке для меня невозможно XD

Hope my Russian doesn't suck that bad, double checked with a translator and it seems fine but I'm not so sure.

Haha. Na'vi in Cyrillic was my idea and I used it over in the Russian Na'vi only chat thread and it probably either made them laugh or make a weird face HRH. They seemed to like it. I think its kinda funny. I wont torture the community outside the Russkiy board with Cyrillic Na'vi transcriptions heheh.

Oe mllte, and the transcriptions are cleaner, too.  Could be something like:

px   пъ
tx   тъ
kx   къ
ts   ц
p   п
t   т
k   к
f   ф
s   с
v   в
z   з
h   х
'   хъ
m   м
n   н
ng   ң
l   л
r   р
y   й
w   вь
ll   лл
rr   рр
a   а
ä   ӓ
e   е/э
ì   ы
i   и
o   о
u   у
(~)   (ў)

Notably, it's a little tricky to figure out ä, w, and '.
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Tirea Aean

Quote from: ll.sxkxawng on July 03, 2010, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 03, 2010, 07:48:54 PM
Quote from: Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn on July 03, 2010, 07:44:43 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 03, 2010, 07:13:24 PM
Quote from: Kemaweyan on July 03, 2010, 06:30:03 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 03, 2010, 05:54:00 PM
ое цун цливам нифтуе. ;)

Омум оел цат :D Айое памллтъэ фы'утери мы фтаунемкрр ;) Нынгай фы'у ламу нгейе сефпыл а фы'у лам оер, кефйак? ;D


Сране. Нынгай фы'у ламу оейе сефпыл...;) айхрр а ое пллтъе фыфйа фпыл сутел фута пллтъе ое ныРусский нанг! ;D

Русский это одно, но Na'vi на русском языке для меня невозможно XD

Hope my Russian doesn't suck that bad, double checked with a translator and it seems fine but I'm not so sure.

Haha. Na'vi in Cyrillic was my idea and I used it over in the Russian Na'vi only chat thread and it probably either made them laugh or make a weird face HRH. They seemed to like it. I think its kinda funny. I wont torture the community outside the Russkiy board with Cyrillic Na'vi transcriptions heheh.

Oe mllte, and the transcriptions are cleaner, too.  Could be something like:

px   пъ
tx   тъ
kx   къ
ts   ц
p   п
t   т
k   к
f   ф
s   с
v   в
z   з
h   х
'   хъ
m   м
n   н
ng   ң
l   л
r   р
y   й
w   вь
ll   лл
rr   рр
a   а
ä   ӓ
e   е/э
ì   ы
i   и
o   о
u   у
(~)   (ў)

Notably, it's a little tricky to figure out ä, w, and '.

Thats actually pretty close to waht I came up with...of course there is not exact transcription between Cyrillic and such Romanization....I intended it lightly. ;)

Kemaweyan

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Quote from: ll.sxkxawng on July 03, 2010, 09:37:30 PM
'   хъ
ng   ң
w   вь
ä   ӓ

Nìngay fpìl oel futa

w      у (nìwin = ныуин, nìlaw = нылау)
ä       е (э)

Ulte nìteng ke lu mì lì'fya leRuski san ң sìk, oe pamlltxe fì'uteri srekrr. Tam.. ulte ' kxawm tsun livu хъ, slä mì lì'fya leRuski tsaw tengpam lu nì'aw ъ ;)
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Tirea Aean

#25
Quote from: Kemaweyan on July 04, 2010, 08:57:36 AM
Quote from: ll.sxkxawng on July 03, 2010, 09:37:30 PM
'   хъ
ng   ң
w   вь
ä   ӓ

Nìngay fpìl oel futa

w      у (nìwin = ныуин, nìlaw = нылау)
ä       е (э)

Ulte nìteng ke lu mì lì'fya leRuski san ң sìk, oe pamlltxe fì'uteri srekrr. Tam.. ulte ' kxawm tsun livu хъ, slä mì lì'fya leRuski tsaw tengpam lu nì'aw ъ ;)

srane. Of course only if you KNOW that e=[з] э=[æ] and aй=[aj] ау=[аw] еу=[зw] eй=[зj] and so on so forths

Kemaweyan

Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 04, 2010, 03:45:53 PM
srane. Of course only if you KNOW that e=[з] э=[æ] and aи=[aj] eи=[ej] еу=[зw] eи=[зj] and so on so forths

Ha e = еä = э srak? Tsunslu...

Slä ke mllte oe furia aи = [aj]eи = [ej], oel fpìl futa

ай = [aj]
ей = [ɛj]


;)
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

wm.annis


Tirea Aean

Quote from: Kemaweyan on July 04, 2010, 03:49:33 PM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on July 04, 2010, 03:45:53 PM
srane. Of course only if you KNOW that e=[з] э=[æ] and aи=[aj] eи=[ej] еу=[зw] eи=[зj] and so on so forths

Ha e = еä = э srak? Tsunslu...

Slä ke mllte oe furia aи = [aj]eи = [ej], oel fpìl futa

ай = [aj]
ей = [ɛj]


;)

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srane. lu tsaw mì oeyä pamrel säfpìlä nang! hrh

ирайо сеийи ое. мллте улте omum oeл футa aй sì eй лу суейэ фйаъо.

Kemaweyan

Quote from: wm.annis on July 04, 2010, 03:53:19 PM
There is precedent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabet_variants ;)

Yeah, there are many variants of cyrillic alphabet in different languages. For example in russian alphabet "irayo" is "ирайо", but in ukrainian "ірайо", because symbol "и" in ukrainian language means "ì" ("ы" in russian).

But I think we say about russian variant, because it is most common from all cyrillic-based :)
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Tirea Aean

Yeah, when I drafted the idea of Na'vi in Cyrillic, I was drafting from Russian.