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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2010, 02:57:38 pm »
I was kinda hoping for a little more help on how to pronounce the glottal stop, especially at the end and beginning of words. That's the one thing about Na'vi pronunciation that gets me every time.
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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #61 on: June 03, 2010, 03:22:47 pm »
I was kinda hoping for a little more help on how to pronounce the glottal stop, especially at the end and beginning of words. That's the one thing about Na'vi pronunciation that gets me every time.
Maybe I'll expand on that in the next one.

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #62 on: June 03, 2010, 03:25:18 pm »
That'd be nice, every time I try to pronounce a word like 'eveng, it sounds lik ev'eng.
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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #63 on: June 03, 2010, 03:56:10 pm »
I was kinda hoping for a little more help on how to pronounce the glottal stop, especially at the end and beginning of words. That's the one thing about Na'vi pronunciation that gets me every time.
Maybe I'll expand on that in the next one.

That would be awesome because that is also where I have problems
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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #64 on: June 03, 2010, 04:42:39 pm »
That would be awesome because that is also where I have problems
Yeah, at the beginning/end of a word it still tricks me out. And this damn /r/ stuff also  :'(

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2010, 03:39:35 pm »
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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #66 on: July 03, 2010, 06:40:34 am »
Irayo nìtxan, ma Ftiafpi

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2010, 05:38:46 pm »
Irayo ma Ftiafpi!   This will help me a lot!

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #68 on: August 18, 2010, 08:49:39 am »
Thanks! I've glad you liked it. Man, I really need to get some more free time to make more of these.

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2010, 02:51:33 am »
this is really going to help with spekin the languach!

i mean , i tought it was good what i did yesterday , but know i see it wasn't haha .

well , much to lurn !!
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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #70 on: September 29, 2010, 03:07:00 am »
*Sigh...*

It's high time I give some feedback here on these pronounciation vids....


I also know this is an old-ish vid, and I wouldn't be surprised if there is some newer audio pronounciation guide out there.

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #71 on: September 29, 2010, 10:18:04 pm »
All, good advice. I'll see if I can digest this when I get back from the Language Workshop.

You're definitely right that this is an old vid, very old in fact. I've learned a lot since then and my pronunciation has gotten a lot better. I'm probably not going to change these though, they've been here so long and honestly their close enough to get people started. Maybe sometime in the future I'll redo them but not for now. I'll definitely take your advice to heart though for any future videos.

Anyway, thanks for the detailed analysis, even though it's old it's still good to look back and make sure I don't maintain any bad habits.
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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #72 on: November 06, 2010, 06:25:03 pm »
Alright! Finally got around to working on these again. I recorded another one and have to do some editing and such but I hope to have it up sometime this week or weekend.

I'll also probably go through the first two guide videos and add annotations to point out the errors and suggestions that 'Oma Tirea pointed out. Not sure when I'll get to that but it will happen.

P.S. Anyone else who wants to make a guide and post it or have me post it, feel free. I don't have or want to be the only voice here.

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #73 on: November 19, 2010, 09:26:19 pm »
A new guide (finally)!

Pronuncation Guide #3



So, finally got another guide out. Sorry for the long delay, I kept getting busy with one thing after another. Hopefully though I can update these a little more regularly now. This guide follows the first few lines from the "getting to know you" section of Dr. Frommer's [url address=www.naviteri.org]Na'vi Teri blog.[/url]

I'll probably make more of these soon. Also, as always, please point out any mistakes in my guide (I'm sure there's plenty) and I will fix them.

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #74 on: November 20, 2010, 02:06:42 am »
Txantsan, ma Ftiafpi! Nì’i’a!

First, I could listen to you all day :) You have the perfect voice for doing audiobooks ;)

Only think I noticed: If I’m not mistaken the consonants of tìng‿mikyun merge and become [tımikjun], same as tìng nari becomes [tınaɾi]

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2010, 02:59:58 am »
Only think I noticed: If I’m not mistaken the consonants of tìng‿mikyun merge and become [tımikjun], same as tìng nari becomes [tınaɾi]

Interesting observation of yours, the double-nasal merging to the second across word boundaries...  oddly enough, I didn't really get that in the most recent vid posted here, and ma Ftiafpi, that is a good thing :)

Also good: you did a much better job overall, in particular with handling the Na'vi e and ng :)


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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #76 on: November 20, 2010, 03:35:42 am »
Only think I noticed: If I’m not mistaken the consonants of tìng‿mikyun merge and become [tımikjun], same as tìng nari becomes [tınaɾi]

Interesting observation of yours, the double-nasal merging to the second across word boundaries...  oddly enough, I didn't really get that in the most recent vid posted here, and ma Ftiafpi, that is a good thing :)
I think this is also due to the fact that it’s a pronunciation guide with a word-for-word pronunciation. It’s absolutely normal that we speak differently when pronouncing every word individually or whether we speak at normal conversation speed.

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #77 on: December 07, 2010, 04:28:06 pm »
These vids have been very helpful. Irayo :) Keep 'em coming.

I still have trouble with the r sound but hopefully I'll get it right one of these days.

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #78 on: December 10, 2010, 09:59:55 am »
These vids have been very helpful. Irayo :) Keep 'em coming.

I still have trouble with the r sound but hopefully I'll get it right one of these days.
Excellent, I'm glad you found them useful. I'll probably make a new one sometime soon.

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Re: Na'vi Pronunciation Guides
« Reply #79 on: December 25, 2010, 08:20:31 pm »
These vids have been very helpful. Irayo :) Keep 'em coming.

I still have trouble with the r sound but hopefully I'll get it right one of these days.
Excellent, I'm glad you found them useful. I'll probably make a new one sometime soon.

I'd be happy to help you if you need it. Pronunciation is my strong point :)

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