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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2010, 08:36:06 am »
Txan irayo, this stuff is awesome ^^

Question: the apostrophes only mark a kind of "silent consonant", not where the stress of the word is, right? Since otherwise "txe'lan" would have the stress on the second syllable..

Why is it, by the way, that in words like Fikem or ampi, the middle consonants like K and P are pronounced so lightly? (almost like figgem and ambbi)

Wasn't the word for "how" "pefya" though? Cause it was spellt and pronounced peyfa.
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2010, 09:15:46 am »
Txan irayo, this stuff is awesome ^^

Question: the apostrophes only mark a kind of "silent consonant", not where the stress of the word is, right? Since otherwise "txe'lan" would have the stress on the second syllable.

The ' marks a glottal stop, similar to the middle of the English word "uh-oh". You are correct though, that the apostrophe does not mark word stress and "txe'lan" has stress on the 2nd syllable. Note though that many people (such a prrton) mark stress by putting an accent on the vowel to mark syllable stress, but this is an accent, not an apostrophe.

Why is it, by the way, that in words like Fikem or ampi, the middle consonants like K and P are pronounced so lightly? (almost like figgem and ambbi)

Na'vi p's, t's, and k's are always un-aspirated. This means they are not accompanied by a 'puff' of air. For example, an aspirated k is found in "kill" but not in "skill". An aspirated t is found is "tore" but not "store". So, the Na'vi p's, t's, and k's sound almost like a b, d, and g. Note that they ARE NOT b, d, and g, they just sound similar to those sounds. Also note that the Na'vi p, t, and k are unreleased when present at the end of a word.

Wasn't the word for "how" "pefya" though? Cause it was spellt and pronounced peyfa.

I thought I updated this... You are correct though, "peyfa" was due to a misspelling.

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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2010, 09:19:55 am »
Wasn't the word for "how" "pefya" though? Cause it was spellt and pronounced peyfa.

I thought I updated this... You are correct though, "peyfa" was due to a misspelling.

Ah yes, now I see it, you did! I copied and replaced the old folder, so naturally "pefya" didn't replace "peyfa", and I still had both sounds in it. ^^
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2010, 01:46:47 pm »
Excellent! I really love this tool!

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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #84 on: February 12, 2010, 11:28:54 pm »
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #85 on: February 24, 2010, 10:44:49 pm »
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #86 on: February 27, 2010, 10:32:07 am »
Irayo!

They really helped me get a sense of the sounds not native to English or other European languages.

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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #87 on: February 27, 2010, 07:51:52 pm »
Is there a list of words which have yet to be recorded anywhere?  I'd love to get back to helping fill this all out.
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #88 on: February 27, 2010, 08:04:50 pm »
Is there a list of words which have yet to be recorded anywhere?  I'd love to get back to helping fill this all out.

Not yet but I think someone mentioned making something like this.

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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #89 on: February 27, 2010, 11:05:14 pm »
I mentioned it would be a good idea.

But now I am making a spreadsheet on google docs with all the words/meanings (No pronunciation/stress guide, sorry) and a column for sound clip, who the speaker is, reviewer comments, and 3 people to review and approve the pronunciation.

Once I'm done making it I'll figure out how to let other people work with it.
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #90 on: February 27, 2010, 11:51:30 pm »
I mentioned it would be a good idea.

But now I am making a spreadsheet on google docs with all the words/meanings (No pronunciation/stress guide, sorry) and a column for sound clip, who the speaker is, reviewer comments, and 3 people to review and approve the pronunciation.

Once I'm done making it I'll figure out how to let other people work with it.
That would be awesome.

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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #91 on: February 28, 2010, 12:26:29 am »
This is where it can be viewed at the moment.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tEULNUMYKBEHySPErNRWhMw&single=true&gid=0&output=html

Editing will be at...

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AsQZVhZx_Z17dEVVTE5VTVlLQkVIeVNQRXJOUldoTXc&hl=en

Anyone who is going to record and publish spoken words, or has a good understanding of CORRECT Na'vi pronunciation (Including all vowel sounds and stresses) and wishes direct access, PM me your google account and I'll add you to the list of editors.
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #92 on: February 28, 2010, 04:14:05 am »
Outstanding.

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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #93 on: February 28, 2010, 04:33:34 am »
Alright, I have all attested words that I know of in there, ready to be added.
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #94 on: February 28, 2010, 06:35:25 am »
I didn't like seeing a completely blank list, so I recorded some new clips and put them in, starting from Z and working back on any monosyllabic word or words with marked stress.
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #95 on: March 01, 2010, 03:24:48 am »
Really? Cool, where can we download em? ^^
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #96 on: March 12, 2010, 04:59:55 pm »
Outstanding.


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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #97 on: March 12, 2010, 05:03:18 pm »
Whats the word count ATM?

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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #98 on: March 17, 2010, 04:54:15 am »
Just recorded a series of more words in Na'vi only.

They are part of the collection at http://www.tyger.org/~tiger/navi/wordlist.php?filterlevel=1
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Re: Spoken Na'vi Words
« Reply #99 on: March 17, 2010, 11:07:42 am »
So is the original project not going any more? I liked the English na'vi English stuff

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