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Atanä mungeyu

Quote from: fox6 on January 16, 2010, 05:15:17 AM
it is possible. if you read the book, you should know - that unobtanium is needed. Humans need it for all modern technology. space travels too ;)
but if they left, and couldn't mine unobtanium to space travel, they couldn't get back on pandora XD
but how did they get here in the first time, unobtanium from earth? XD so they don't need it for space travel XD
eywa ayngahu,
unilyu
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from the book (translated)
Unobtanium:
"mineral used in key industries. without him it would be no antimatter generators, space travels,  expeditions in remote regions of space, light communication and maglev trains (?)"
"modern civilization is dependent on technology-based overguides" ;) (sorry, don't know the word)



Atanä mungeyu

but unobtanium isn't on earth, and they first found it on pandora, when they already used matter-antimatter engines which apparently need unobtanium.
error in the finding of unobtanium XD
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Reav

Unobtanium is used in the cooling of the anti matter propulsion system that they use in the ships to go between Earth and Pandora.

Before this, ships were up to 4km long mostly made up of cooling systems and were not cost effective. With the introduction of Unobtainum cooling systems were able to be much smaller than the first craft that they made and much more cost effective.

There is also 9 ships currently in cycle from Earth to Pandora and vice versa, so it won't take long for another to arrive soon, then you have to bear in mind that the ones that were booted off the Planet will probably just float above Pandora till more RDA arrive.
There is also another Dragon Gunship ''shell'' made in Hells Gate which only needs a few parts from earth to be completed. 

Txen Seri Unil

Quote from: Reav on January 16, 2010, 06:05:45 AM
There is also 9 ships currently in cycle from Earth to Pandora and vice versa,<snip>
Kaltxi!

Quick sidenote/off topic question.

You are the second person on these forums to make the above claim as if it were fact. Where are you getting this information?

Not saying you are wrong, I'd just like to know where the reference is coming from. :)

Irayo,
Txen Seri Unil


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Txen Seri Unil = Awake + Make (present continuing tense) + Dream = Waking Dream

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Na'rìngyä vrrtep

yea, good question. I have book, script - and I didn't found any info about number of ships...



Atanä mungeyu

he's making it up XD ;D
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Atanä mungeyu

well i think it's in some of the books, i have them all but i don't know which book XD
i know my memory sucks, but i think it's avatar; the movie scrapbook.
but i've never seen a part about 9 ships etc
but i have all the books, the cd, read them all and the ld script and i've seen avatar 2 times, 3rd time tonight XD
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Atanä mungeyu

perhaps the 2nd movie is about a time before the 1st movie, because neytiri says that her grandfather orso was also toruk makto,
and he also gathered all the clans in a time of great peril, and then there also was a war which they won with all the clans,
s perhaps it will be about that?
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unilyu
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Quote from: unil-tìran-tokx on January 16, 2010, 08:52:35 AM
perhaps the 2nd movie is about a time before the 1st movie, because neytiri says that her grandfather orso was also toruk makto,
and he also gathered all the clans in a time of great peril, and then there also was a war which they won with all the clans,
s perhaps it will be about that?
eywa ayngahu,
unilyu

Cameron said it would follow Jake and Neytiri soooo, no sorry.  8)
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Quote from: Nìwotxkrr Tsahameylu on January 16, 2010, 08:55:14 AM
Quote from: unil-tìran-tokx on January 16, 2010, 08:52:35 AM
perhaps the 2nd movie is about a time before the 1st movie, because neytiri says that her grandfather orso was also toruk makto,
and he also gathered all the clans in a time of great peril, and then there also was a war which they won with all the clans,
s perhaps it will be about that?
eywa ayngahu,
unilyu

Cameron said it would follow Jake and Neytiri soooo, no sorry.  8)

He has also said that there will not be prequels.



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Reav

#71
http://www.pandorapedia.com/doku.php/isv_venture_star

I've been posting this site with pretty much alot of things I've said recently and it has alot of detailed information based on the Avatar universe.

Direct quote.

QuoteThe Venture Star is the ninth ship of its class brought into service, and has made one round trip to the Alpha Centauri System. It is currently outbound on its second voyage, due to arrive there in 2154.

Talk of "wormholes" and "warp drives" captured the imagination of twentieth-century sci-fi fans, but no such methods have come to fruition. For now, engineers must rely upon techniques that exploit our current understanding of physics. Visionaries set their sights on the potential for matter-antimatter reactions. The enormous energy released in the annihilation of matter and antimatter is the only known means of creating the kind of propulsion needed for interstellar travel. The first interstellar ship was over four kilometers long, because of the massive refrigeration system required to maintain the conventional low-temperature superconducting magnets that produced the containment field for the matter-antimatter reaction. It was not until the discovery of the high-temperature superconductor unobtanium on Pandora that interstellar travel and commerce became commercially viable. The Capital Star Class ISV was developed using this technology and is one-quarter the size of that first ship, and many times more efficient. Power Source: Hybrid deuterium fusion / matter-antimatter annihilation.

And also about the Dragon.

QuoteIn situ manufacturing is necessary because of the extremely high cost of transporting mass from Earth to Pandora. Only exotic electronics and other specialty items are manifested as 'upmass' from Earth. The rest is made locally, including all ground vehicles, bulldozers, mine equipment, weapons, clothing, modular building elements, etc.

The construction of the Dragon was controversial, because it was a 'one-off' which did not, in the opinion of the in situ plant managers, justify the tooling necessary to build it. However, Colonel Miles Quarich lobbied strongly for the vehicle, saying it was necessary to accomplish his mission of security for all on-world RDA assets. Given his sterling record as SecOps commander on Pandora, his will prevailed and the Dragon was built. A second Dragon airframe was fabricated, but the turbines and other components necessary to make it operational have not, at the date of this writing, arrived from Earth.

'Tsamsiyu

Ok... I've got the sequel all planned out...

The humans find Quaritch's body on Pandora and take it home, it just so happens that Quaritch had signed to an Avatar, and that he had an identical twin brother, who happens to be paraplegic. They tell his brother and persuade him to step into his shoes and control the avatar...

Hey wait a second...
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Quote from: Eledrizztt on January 16, 2010, 01:02:20 PM
Ok... I've got the sequel all planned out...

The humans find Quaritch's body on Pandora and take it home, it just so happens that Quaritch had signed to an Avatar, and that he had an identical twin brother, who happens to be paraplegic. They tell his brother and persuade him to step into his shoes and control the avatar...

Hey wait a second...
ehehehe..  8)
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Reav

Quote from Wikipedia.

James Cameron recently stated that there are storylines set in place that could lead to future Avatar installments.[189] He said that he had more than one film planned from the start, and even kept scenes in Avatar that led to the sequel. "The CG [computer graphic] plants and trees and creatures and the musculo-skeletal rigging of the main characters - that all takes an enormous amount of time to create. It'd be a waste not to use it again."

Sam Worthington has signed on to reprise his role as Jake Sully in future sequels.[189] As for other cast members returning, actor Stephen Lang, who played Colonel Miles Quaritch, the main antagonist of Avatar, thinks he could make a return: "You think those two arrows in my chest are going to stop me from coming back?" Lang told Entertainment Weekly, "Nothing's over so long as they've got my DNA."

There you have it, We could be seeing a return of the mega bad ass. I don't mind as long as they explain it well enough.
In the Avatar universe storing the information contained in a brain is possible (why Avatar's are possible) and growing of bodies can take as much as just 6 months.

Night Raider

Woot the Quaritch is bad ass... be cool if they put him back in.
Is this right? I just write whatever in the signature box?

'Tsamsiyu

It's an interesting idea but I'm a little worried about it repeating itself, initially I'd just stay Stephen Lang is pulling your leg (Not literally, he's so bad ass he'd pull it off to be honest), but there is certain a high possibility of flash backs if he doesn't play the Antagonist.
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'There are many dangers on Pandora, and one of the subtlest is that you may come to love it too much' - Dr. Grace Augustine

'I dreamt I was a Warrior that could bring peace... sooner or later though... you always have to wake up...'

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Reav

One thing that caught my eye was the fact that the architecture around the tree of souls (though now a ruin) looks far more advanced than something the Na'vi would make and it does look constructed..
Maybe it's just the result of the Flux auras shaping rock over time.
Or maybe long ago the Na'vi were something else.  It hints to this in some writings with how Pandorian wildlife are genially 6 limbed creatures, while the Na'vi have only four and how it's unknown how the Na'vi evolved and fit into the whole structure of the world.

But thats all just speculation, Imagine the Humans start a bomb run from space on Pandora and the Na'vi's Ancestors suddenly show up :P? That would explain how it's possible to explore the other moons but these are just weird thoughts on what could happen.

Bob From Bombay

OMG!!! CANT WAIT!!!! hope they get a better script though... District 9 had a better screenplay than avatar.... :) :)

Txen Seri Unil

Quote from: Reav on January 17, 2010, 07:02:57 AM
One thing that caught my eye was the fact that the architecture around the tree of souls (though now a ruin) looks far more advanced than something the Na'vi would make and it does look constructed..
Maybe it's just the result of the Flux auras shaping rock over time.
Kaltxi!

You are correct, it does have to do with the magnetic fields around the Tree of Souls. The speculation from some scientists (which can be found here ) rather, geologists, is that the more dense ore like iron formed along the magnetic lines and as erosion occurred it wore away the less ore-rich soil first, leaving the arches as you see them in the movie.

Quote from: Reav on January 17, 2010, 07:02:57 AM
It hints to this in some writings with how Pandorian wildlife are genially 6 limbed creatures, while the Na'vi have only four and how it's unknown how the Na'vi evolved and fit into the whole structure of the world.

Cameron has said (sorry can't find the reference right now) that the Na'vi are linked to humans somehow, which is why they look similar to humans (more or less). He said if/when he writes a book about the Na'vi it will explain the connection between the two races. :)

On-topic: Perhaps some hints about the connection between the races will be in Avatar 2?

Eywa ngahu,
Txen Seri Unil


Old name: Rawveggie. Upgraded to Na'vi name.

Txen Seri Unil = Awake + Make (present continuing tense) + Dream = Waking Dream

"The words are like stones in my heart." -Jake Sully
(Aylì'u lu na tskxe mì oeyä txe'lan. - Na'vi translation from script)