Cliffhangers and untied ends from the first movie.

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SO... has anyone else noticed things that could potentially lead into a sequel? 

For example: what happend to all the humans that left pandora?

If there were less than 200 survivers... its a non-issue... they are placed into stasis, and the ship continues to orbit untill it is refueled, and heads home.

(some of you may notice that some of this below is copy/pasted from one of my other posts)

What if there were more than 200 survivers... the ISV only has lifesupport for its crew durring the return trip... and 200 cryochambers... its also only been in orbit (refueling) for 3 months, the ISVs are designed to stay in orbit for a year... of course... we dont know if it takes that full year to refuel, but it prolly takes a good portion of that time, considering they need to manufacture antimatter, and collect significant quantities of deuterium and tritium from polymorphus for the return trip.  If there are more than 200 survivers, they could not all be placed into cryo... and the ISV could not just continue to refuel, as it would run out of life support.

Also... I think i remember something about the antimatter being manufactured, not on the space ship, but at hells gate.. which would mean that if its antimatter reserves were not completely replenished... it once again, could not return to earth. (if it were 80% replenished... it might be able to jettison its unobtanium cargo, (350 tons (i am going to assume metric here... since there is no freaking way the world had not converted to metric by this point)), and... while i have not done the math... it might be able to get up to speed if it were underweight (although... depending on the engine design... there MAY be issues with the issue that the ship, at full power, would accelerate faster than 1.5g (the max the ship can take... although hopefully things are still engineered to be able to take 2x the specs)... and if the engine is designed in such a matter than it can only be "on" or "off"...

In other words... alot of things would have to have gone right for the ISV to be able to immediatly begin its return trip to earth.

James cameron mentions that the sequels may talk about the other moons of polymorphus... if they have their stethography planet still on board the ISV, trying to set up an outpost on another rock in that solar system may be the only option, since they dont have the fuel or lifesupport to travel back to sol.  (and not to mention... another ISV WILL arrive 10-11 months from the point where the movie ends.... and another 14 months after that... and another... and another... since once they are accelerated to .7 C they only have enough fuel to stop... which would be very very bad if they are not at earth or pandora... and there are 12 of these ships equally spaced.)

Also... according to the 2007 script... "the science guys will keep the lights on"... so hell's gate still, to some degree, is functional.


So. while i realize... this all has to do with the the hummies (and the Na'vi prolly could care less what happens to them)... it still means that another ship will arrive to alpha centauri 11 months or so after the movie ends.

anyway... thoughts?

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What if there were more than 200 survivers... the ISV only has lifesupport for its crew durring the return trip... and 200 cryochambers... its also only been in orbit (refueling) for 3 months, the ISVs are designed to stay in orbit for a year... of course...

Quaritch said they could have Jake "on a shuttle tonight", which implies there's plenty of those shuttles moving back and forth between earth and Pandora, enough to leave (almost) whenever they feel like. So the ship they used to get back to earth need not have been the one Jake arrived in. It could be one that was refuelling for a longer time.
Although that's sorta contradicted by the 2007 script which implies there were only two shuttles on Pandora, and one of them was blown up. But I don't know.

James cameron mentions that the sequels may talk about the other moons of polymorphus.

The planet's called Polyphemus.

Anyway, I'm sure we haven't seen the last of the humans. Who else could be the villain? Some danger on pandora?
With everything they built up about how earth looks like in the 22nd century, and the implications in the ASG that there's humans who wish to return to a closer relationship with nature, I could well imagine we'd see some more human activities, and stuff going on on earth.

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Doh polyphemus... thankyou. I am horrible with names.

While, yes, i think they have shuttles moving between the ISV and hell's gate quite often, (for nothing else, the transportation of anti-matter from the factory at hell's gate to the ISV), the ISV's certainly dont arrive/leave anything less than 13 months (more like 14) apart... they simply place people that want to leave into cryo... so they dont grow old and use up resoruces unnessasarlly... If jake went in that shuttle, he would prolly be in cryo for a good 9 months before those giant epicly massive engines fire. (I really really really hope they show an engine burn in the sequel!)

There are only 2 shuttles in use hualing stuff from pandora to the ISV, they only operate for a year Like this. When the next ISV arrives, they are replaced,and the old shuttles are recommisioned for attonomous hydrogen harvesting from polyphemus... where if they break down... you dont lose much... compared to if they broke down while going from ISV to planet or back (can you imagine what would happen if a shuttle failed while carring antimatter to the ISV? 0_o )

The humans will be back... wether the humans like it or not. Using the preety reasonable assumption that all 12 ISV's are operational and evenly spaced... there are 5 ISVs on their way to Alpha Centauri with no way to turn around.  (they got enough fuel to stop... not enough to do a 180)

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So. while i realize... this all has to do with the the hummies (and the Na'vi prolly could care less what happens to them)... it still means that another ship will arrive to alpha centauri 11 months or so after the movie ends.
anyway... thoughts?

Another ship which will have the same problems taking a bulk load of humans back to earth.

I'm sure the people who stayed would have told the Na'vi, and that our friendly blues didn't actually send the RDA survivors to a cold death in space... but it's not clear to me at this point how they might get home. Other than somehow surviving for six years until the second full wave of skxawng arrive.