Article - Na'vi? (Avatar 2 ~ working title?)

[Txur’Itan]

http://scifiwire.com/2010/03/james-cameron-dont-call-i.php

[Tsa'räni]

Na'vi: The Glottal Stop Strikes Back

[Nanaki]

"Certainly I don't want to call it Avatar 2," Cameron said at the Visual Effects Society Awards ceremony in Century City, Calif., on Sunday, where he was honored with the Lifetime Achievement Award. "He's not an avatar anymore, is he? Maybe we'll call it Na'vi."

Thanks for the share

[Kätsyín te Zotxekay Tsyal’itan]

^Yea, after reading that, I can see why Avatar 2 would be a dumb name, because, technically, Jake is no longer an avatar.

[Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn]

The avatar is the body itself so technically he's still an avatar just not a remote control one.

[Kätsyín te Zotxekay Tsyal’itan]

No, technically, its not anymore. Its called the AVATAR program. He was an avatar, but after the soul transferring ceremony and the fact that he was accepted as one of the People, he could be called a Na'vi. Except for the five fingers and toes....

[Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn]

What I'm saying is that genetically he is still an Avatar, mentally he's a na'vi but biologically he's still a human/na'vi hybrid unless Eywa suddenly changes all of his DNA.

[Kätsyín te Zotxekay Tsyal’itan]

^Yea, I can see that. It'll be interesting though....can a Na'vi and Avatar mate and produce a viable offspring?

[Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn]

Well Avatar 2 would be pretty dry if they couldn't. I would assume they could but I don't think we have an exact percent on how much human to Na'vi dna there is.

[Kätsyín te Zotxekay Tsyal’itan]

Thats true...back to topic....lol.

So Avatar 2 is out for sure, Cameron's suggestion in the article of Na'vi seems a little dry to me.

Suggestions?

<Promoted to Omatikaya.

[Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn]

I hope it gets named Uniltìrantokx, everyone who isn't us will be going "wTf h4x?!?!"

[Kätsyín te Zotxekay Tsyal’itan]

Lol, well if they all really listened to the movie, they would know what it means, lol.

[archaic]

^Yea, I can see that. It'll be interesting though....can a Na'vi and Avatar mate and produce a viable offspring?

No imho, Jake is an F1 hybrid, 'Haman DNA mixed with the, er, (pause) DNA of the natives'
So he would not be able to have viable offspring, which make thing real simple for the set up for the sequels.

Who's going tell Neytiri that Jake can't give her children?
Can avatar + avatar have viable offspring.

[Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn]

Avatars aren't like hybrids here on earth, there's no way to tell how much human there actually is in an avatar. It could be almost none to almost all, we'd have to ask JC.

[archaic]

JC is the creator, he is the source, I bow to his views of course, (except when he's wrong)

Jake is no scientist, and he's clearly not sure that 'DNA' is correct for the Na'vi.
Why should they have DNA as genetic material, not all life on earth uses it.
If they use something else it may help explain why the avatars are so insanely expensive.

Found here http://www.pandorapedia.com/doku.php/the_avatar_program
Also here http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar_Program

"...the Na'vi cellular nucleus organelle does not use nucleic acids (DNA or RNA) to encode genetic information, producing a 'translation table' that matched a specific Human's DNA to a Na'vi NVTranscriptase..."

"Dr Lovecraft famously remarked, humans are "far more closely related genetically to garden slugs than to Na'vi." "(just don't say that in front of Jake or Neytiri)

[Eyamsiyu]

About an Avatar and a Na'vi mating and having kids:

I agree from what I see: it seems that it would not be possible.  But then again, the Na'vi don't seem to be the kind to have multiple kids.

If they COULD have kids, the only problem I would foresee is that Jake would introduce new anomalies into the Na'vi population that the Na'vi didn't have before.

Keep in mind, though, that in the 2007 script it said that Neytiri was "obviously pregnant," so I would assume that James has an explanation for it.

Finally, if Eywa wills it, it probably would happen.

[Txur’Itan]

Jake is no scientist, and he's clearly not sure that 'DNA' is correct for the Na'vi.
Why should they have DNA as genetic material, not all life on earth uses it.
If they use something else it may help explain why the avatars are so insanely expensive.

Possible, but Jake was probably given standard layman's terms when it was explained to him, or he could have second or third hand layman's terms on the subject.  Either that, or when he was prepped for the mission, he had the same spiel a PHD would get, and to him it sounded like "Blah, Blah, Blah, DNA, Blah, Blah, Mixed DNA, Blah, Blah, DNA of the Natives."

Found here http://www.pandorapedia.com/doku.php/the_avatar_program
Also here http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar_Program

"...the Na'vi cellular nucleus organelle does not use nucleic acids (DNA or RNA) to encode genetic information, producing a 'translation table' that matched a specific Human's DNA to a Na'vi NVTranscriptase..."

"Dr Lovecraft famously remarked, humans are "far more closely related genetically to garden slugs than to Na'vi." "(just don't say that in front of Jake or Neytiri)

Yeah, interesting quote from the Video Games, not sure if we can accept it as cannon yet.  If this were true, the "Genetic Material" would be too far different between Na'vi and Humans to allow for hybridization stability with this significant of a difference.  The writers for that section are most likely an Ubisoft Associate Producer who is a fan of the Cthulu mythos.  And probably following the line of thinking that Humans have more genetically in common with corn than any possible extraterrestrial biological form.  That character -Dr Lovecraft- does not appear anywhere else except in their games AFAIK.

If they COULD have kids, the only problem I would foresee is that Jake would introduce new anomalies into the Na'vi population that the Na'vi didn't have before.

Keep in mind, though, that in the 2007 script it said that Neytiri was "obviously pregnant," so I would assume that James has an explanation for it.

Finally, if Eywa wills it, it probably would happen.

It may be far simpler than anyone is thinking it is, or it could be the McGuffin of the next film, depends on if J.C. actually retains that bit about Neytiri being pregnant from the end of the 2007 Script.

About an Avatar and a Na'vi mating and having kids:

I agree from what I see: it seems that it would not be possible.  But then again, the Na'vi don't seem to be the kind to have multiple kids.

J.C. Seems to have ridden the fence on this one.

JC is the creator, he is the source, I bow to his views of course, (except when he's wrong)

Everyone is wrong, everyone is right, it just depends on knowing the future, which everyone seems to be able to do here. =)