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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #80 on: January 23, 2011, 08:19:18 pm »
That's what probably what happened, but we don't know for sure.

this is from the CE deleted scenes

Yeah... This is what really happened. :(


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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #81 on: January 23, 2011, 08:29:19 pm »
That's what probably what happened, but we don't know for sure.

this is from the CE deleted scenes

Yeah... This is what really happened. :(

Keep in mind the deleted scenes also showed
so not all the deleted scenes should be taken as final canon

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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #82 on: January 23, 2011, 08:32:33 pm »
That's what probably what happened, but we don't know for sure.

this is from the CE deleted scenes

Yeah... This is what really happened. :(

Keep in mind the deleted scenes also showed
so not all the deleted scenes should be taken as final canon

Ah... this is true...

Well, it's the only explanation we have for Norm's death & reaction when waking back in the pod.  IDK bleeding to death would cause that kind of trauma when he gets out of the pod...


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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #83 on: January 24, 2011, 10:40:02 am »
He'd just experienced all the sensations of multiple gun shot wounds, that's gotta hurt!

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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #84 on: January 24, 2011, 11:46:40 pm »
That's what probably what happened, but we don't know for sure.

this is from the CE deleted scenes

that scene specifically said alternate version.

Yeah... This is what really happened. :(

Keep in mind the deleted scenes also showed
so not all the deleted scenes should be taken as final canon
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2011, 02:12:18 am »
I am actually applying ot be an extra in the movie and it says that Norm gets to come back... at least as human. But no reference as to whether he is Na'vi.
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2011, 06:43:34 pm »
we are saying that his avatar body died, not his actual body.
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2011, 08:25:26 pm »
We are saying that his avatar body probably died, and his human body deffo survived, he's there herding the tawtute into the shuttle in two scenes before last.
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2011, 10:52:00 pm »
...which could just as easily be because his avatar was recovering and he couldn't link or it would be too painful to (plus he couldn't be able to do anything after getting shot like that).
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2011, 02:11:08 pm »
I think Norm shouldnt be made the less fortunate one in the film. I mean he went to school for years to get the job and Jake does better than him right from the start... without any training. Also his love with Trudy... she is dead now and Jake has his Neytiri. So he is already double screwed their, and if he couldnt lve on Pandora as a Na'vi I think he would really hate his luck.
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #90 on: March 10, 2011, 08:09:01 am »
Ok so we know that:
  • Eytukan: Dead, but he lives within eywa.
  • Dr Grace Augustine: Dead, but she lives within eywa. Booked for sequel.
  • Col Miles Quatitch: Booked for sequel?!*
*(survived somehow? lives within eywa like Augustine? Cloned? Flashback? Time Travel? Avatar2 is a prequel?)

What we do not know for sure:
  • Norms Avatar: The older script say's dead, but if we don't see it did it happen? Alone 2-3 hits in the shoulder shouldn't be enough to kill it, Quaritch states clearly that the Na'vi are "very hard to kill".
  • Trudy Chacone: Watch her samson explode, is there an ejector seat saving her life? I can't be sure, but just possibly. I hope she lived, she's too good a charater to just kill off, but it's a stretch.
  • Tsu'tey:Why does everyone assume he is dead? 5-6 entry wound on his front, no exit wounds, we see him adjusting his fall to begin a leaf fall landing. I think it's safe to assume he's well practiced. Dr Norm Spellman phd is on foot in the right area so could have been able to stop the bleeding, which would have saved his life. Plus as Quaritch states Na'vi are "very hard to kill". Or he lives within eywa.

These are just my opinions feel free to tell me if/why you think I'm wrong.

srry but i saw in the collector's edition that tsu'tey died. Jake had to kill him.

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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2011, 03:23:05 pm »
That post was written much before the collector's edition came out; March 2010. Please check the post date before replying to a post. :)

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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2011, 04:28:27 pm »
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #93 on: March 11, 2011, 07:03:17 am »
Actually, I still haven't completely forgiven JC for killing Tsu'tey, I still think he should have survived.

For me Jake becoming Olo'eyktan is a small step to far.
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #94 on: March 22, 2011, 06:02:06 pm »
Jake becoming the chief makes for a beter sequel...  :-\
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #95 on: March 23, 2011, 04:30:11 pm »
Rly? As chief, he's responsible for the Omatikaya. He can't go off independently and have his own adventures, with or without Neytiri. It's better if Tsu'tey has the boring mundane day to day stuff to do. Imho.

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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #96 on: March 31, 2011, 03:59:22 pm »
I have heard that Quartich coming back
He said "do you think that the two arrows in my chest can stop me"

How can he come back? he died.

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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #97 on: March 31, 2011, 04:12:31 pm »
Stephen Lung hoped that his hero was cloned. In my opinion this is not the best idea. In any case, it is Cameron's solution, but I don't think he would agree.
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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #98 on: March 31, 2011, 04:26:08 pm »
he is been cloned like the tigers from Beijing Zoo, when you hear it in the collectors edition?
maybe or something else

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Re: Who died and who survived?
« Reply #99 on: March 31, 2011, 04:37:24 pm »
It is only Lung's hope. He know that Grace comes back and wants the same. M. Rogriges  ( Trudi ) also hoped for it.
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