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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #160 on: January 28, 2019, 08:41:11 pm »
speech in what sense?
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #161 on: January 28, 2019, 08:54:23 pm »

Okay, wait a minute, might have just figured something, or im totally wrong haha. If säftxulì'u is a literal speech, would säftxulì by itself just be the noun "speech"? again, thank you for your help
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #162 on: January 28, 2019, 11:36:28 pm »
speech in what sense?
Speech as a noun, i.e. "my speech is improving"
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #163 on: January 29, 2019, 10:54:02 pm »
ouch, posted this in the wrong thread. anywho, so constructing the proverbial na'vi beginner sentence (telling someone something sweet without them knowing) has brought me to this.

Nga lu oeya yawnetu. (yawntu).

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« Reply #164 on: January 29, 2019, 11:24:14 pm »
ouch, posted this in the wrong thread. anywho, so constructing the proverbial na'vi beginner sentence (telling someone something sweet without them knowing) has brought me to this.

Nga lu oeya yawnetu. (yawntu).

Corrections?
*oeyä
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #165 on: January 30, 2019, 03:35:58 am »
Don't forget that a and ä are different sounds. The textbox provides us with buttons that they type automatically ä and ì so you can easily type them.

BTW: So far I am not aware of any words that sound so similar that would create a misunderstanding if you spell it wrong. For example in turkish oldum means "I was" and öldüm means "i died". In tahitian tūtu means "cook" and tutu is a type of tree. So the spelling does cause confusion in those cases. But I don't know if there are such cases in Na'vi

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #166 on: January 30, 2019, 03:50:26 am »
There are a few, for example pxim versus pxìm, kxa... ka, TUte versus tuTE etc., not to mention words changed by lenition,  'eylan... eylan saylahe.

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #167 on: January 30, 2019, 05:21:28 am »
Ah yea but I dont say about the x's or the 's, but typing special characters. Eg. while hastily writing something you don't have time to look for special characters so you might type "oeya" without any ambiguity because there isn't such a word with a different meaning in Na'vi.

Because of those reasons I type French, Italian, Spanish, Turkish without the special characters (btw I am not a polyglot).

However pxim / pxìm is an interesting case.

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #168 on: January 30, 2019, 08:54:20 am »
I did intend to type oeyä, i suppose I goofed. But overall is the sentence/fix structure correct?
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #169 on: January 30, 2019, 08:57:30 am »
I did intend to type oeyä, i suppose I goofed. But overall is the sentence/fix structure correct?
Yeah other than the ä thing, looks good. (which is basically what tsyili said. to see translation of her Na'vi text, hover your mouse over it ;) )

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #170 on: January 30, 2019, 09:32:08 am »
si irayo, fì'u lu srunga'
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #171 on: January 30, 2019, 09:55:54 am »
irayo [si], fì'u lu srunga'

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just a nit style thingy:
    "si irayo" is strange. though irayo si is literally the only known verb within the class of "__ si" verbs to allow putting the "si" part first, every time I've seen it done this way, the <ei> (seaker's positive mood infix) is used:  seiyi irayo  (heard in the film: ngaru seiyi irayo)
    "irayo si", the full verb-form meaning "[to engage in the act of] thanks" is almost never used by itself like this. Usually it's just "irayo" (the noun form; "thanks").

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #172 on: January 30, 2019, 10:09:27 am »
I think i read it under "Na'vi expressions and Idioms" that si irayo was "i thank you". but ngaru seiya irayo does seem more grammatically correct.
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« Reply #173 on: January 30, 2019, 10:55:56 am »
I think i read it under "Na'vi expressions and Idioms" that si irayo was "i thank you". but ngaru seiya irayo does seem more grammatically correct.

Oh, yeah I see what you mean. That thread/post has a timestamp of 2010-02-01 (Feb 2010), about as ancient as they come :) 2010 was a chaotic time for the language, as that was when we were still trying to reverse-engineer and conjecture about the grammar rules based on what next-to-nothing published we had to go off. A safe rule of thumb is to check timestamps, giving more weight to stuff posted within the last 4 or 5 years and tread with caution on older threads.

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #174 on: January 30, 2019, 11:08:16 am »
Is there anyway we could revamp the older posts for newer generations? I'm sure there will be an influx of people interested in learning Na'vi with the sequels approaching.
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« Reply #175 on: January 30, 2019, 11:16:24 am »
Is there anyway we could revamp the older posts for newer generations? I'm sure there will be an influx of people interested in learning Na'vi with the sequels approaching.

I'm not sure what we can do. For now, everything in this forum more or less serves as a historical archive. For this reason, I personally would prefer the old threads stay as they are for historical preservation reasons. On the forum, probably the best thing we can do to keep boards up to date is to keep posting, that way there will always be new stuff :)

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #176 on: January 30, 2019, 11:30:55 am »
You and tysili both told me the same, I suppose i'll be joining asap.
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« Reply #177 on: January 30, 2019, 12:01:22 pm »
You and tysili both told me the same, I suppose i'll be joining asap.

tsaw txantsana säfpìl leiu. tsatseng nìngay lu tseng asrunga'a fpi aynumeyu a new ftivia fìlì'fyati. :"D


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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (Please ask your questions here) - II
« Reply #178 on: February 05, 2019, 09:41:31 am »
I'd try taw a teya (lu) ta sanhì.

It’s teya ta ;)
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Kaltxì ma frapo!!!
What means "teya ta" ???
To know that i am not new here!!!
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« Reply #179 on: February 05, 2019, 09:44:44 am »
Kaltxì ma frapo!!!
What means "teya ta" ???
Oeru syaw Matalìna...i changed my name in Eìrä!!!

Kaltxì :) I knew it was you ;D


taw a teya (lu) ta sanhì.

means "The sky is full of stars" / "The sky is filled with stars" or similar.

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