EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:07 PM
lu oeru tìpawm... thinking about "saylahe", which consists of "sì aylahe", made me wonder if you could say "aylahe" instead of (for example) "lapo"?
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:07 PM
hm
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:08 PM
like "miscellaneous stuff" or "miscellanea"
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:16 PM
There's no precision on the use, but it seems so.
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 2:27 PM
I've seen aylahe used as "n. others". It is in Eana Eltu, even. (Some reason this is not in Dict Na'vi)(edited)
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:27 PM
@Plumps
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 2:27 PM
From this ancient canon:
The Golden Rule:
Kemìri a ngaru prrte' ke lu,
Tsakem rä'ä sivi aylaheru.
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:28 PM
sounds rather medieval :smile:
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:29 PM
lel
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:29 PM
hm
but saylahe is clearly not meant for people
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:29 PM
maybe it's meant for both ppl and non-ppl
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 2:30 PM
saylahe is adv. and mean etc. (et cetera) according to Dict-Na'vi.(edited)
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:30 PM
yes
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 2:30 PM
Also an ancient alternative:
Hem ngeyä zenke fkoru livu,
Tsayhem a ngaru prrte' livu.
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:31 PM
saylahe = sì aylahe = et cetera, though aylahe = other (people) ...
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 2:31 PM
But the aylaheru one was canonized somewhere somehow, IIRC
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:31 PM
hm
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 2:31 PM
I remember aylahe being in even our oldest Taronyu PDFs
"sì aylahe" could refer to people, I think.
Po sì aylahe hahaw pxiset.
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 2:32 PM
In Dict-Na'vi is:
saylahe - etc
lapo - others (from lahea po)
aylaru - to others
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 2:33 PM
Aylaru is a contraction of aylaheru
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:33 PM
:rolling_eyes: :thinking:
y u so confusing, Na'vi
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 2:35 PM
https://wiki.learnnavi.org/Corpus#Good_Morning_AmericaCorpus
Nikalym - Last Sunday at 2:35 PM
cause it can :smile:
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 2:35 PM
The Corpus containing the ancient sentences

EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:36 PM
indeed o.o
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 2:36 PM
And speaking of et cetera:
saylahe (adv., say.LA.he) ‘et cetera’
Saylahe is a contraction of sì aylahe ‘and others.’ In writing, the abbreviation sl. may be used where we would use etc.
http://naviteri.org/2014/10/tson-si-fpomron-obligation-and-mental-health/Na’viteri.org
Pawl
Tson sì Fpomron—Obligation and Mental Health
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:37 PM
K I figure it's usable for both things and people
lu oeru lahea tìpawm... hrh :smile:
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:55 PM
hrh
pivawm
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 2:55 PM
hrh - Tsakem sivi ko!
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:55 PM
how do you use mìkam? mìkam fìtseng sì tsatseng?
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:57 PM
I think so
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:58 PM
is it limited to physical places only?
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 2:58 PM
Oe lu mìkam na'rìng kilvansì. - that works... what about tok?(edited)
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 2:58 PM
hm
How would you say "between life and death"?
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:58 PM
oel tok Xit mìkam z sì y
@TireaAean
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 2:59 PM
Oel tok mìkam na'rìngit sì kilvanit. - What about this?
or
Oel tok mìkam na'rìng sì kilvan.
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 2:59 PM
but what is the direct object?
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 3:00 PM
oel tok tsengit a mìkam x sì z o_o
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 3:00 PM
well
I am at the campground between the forest and the river
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 3:00 PM
Oel tok tsengta mìkam na'rìng sì kilvan. - This may work.
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 3:01 PM
tsengta = ta tseng :wink:
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 3:01 PM
or tsengit a
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 3:02 PM
yeah`
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 3:02 PM
tsenga - tsengta.
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 3:02 PM
hmm
is this cannon?
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Sunday at 3:02 PM
Dunno
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 3:02 PM
tsenga is ok
but not for this sentence
thanks plumps for not providing examples
Nikalym - Last Sunday at 3:04 PM
plumps isn't online right now
Vawmataw - Last Sunday at 3:04 PM
i know
But he didn't add examples in his annotated dictionary
Nikalym - Last Sunday at 3:05 PM
oh ok i didn't know
Plumps - Last Sunday at 3:24 PM
if there is no official example of the word in use then there is no example in the dictionary :wink: simple as that
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 3:26 PM
kezemplltxe
Plumps - Last Sunday at 3:30 PM
i'm just saying, I don't provide the examples, oel sati starsìm nìyey
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 4:22 PM
I would imagine that there is nothing wrong with
Oel tok tsengit a mìkam X sì Y.
for nouns X, Y
Seems quite a safe route to take.
This too probably works:
... mìkam meutral
There is also kxamtseng. Perhaps also (even if not natively idiomatic):
kxsmtseng(it) Xä sì Yä
kxamtseng(it) meXä
for nouns X, Y(edited)
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 4:23 PM
hmmm eltur tìtxen si... irayo ma @TireaAean
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 4:24 PM

kea tìkin
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 4:24 PM
how about places that are not physical tho?
life/death, insanity/sanity
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 4:28 PM
Hard to say. 2 options:
1) assume it's allowed until it's officially not allowed, at which point it needs to be un-learned
2) assume it's not allowed until it's confirmed to be allowed. (Safer, imo)
But even the best of us chose option 1 sometimes, to test the bounds of the language. It's up to you. It's just 1) has the risk of potentially becoming incorrect overnight.
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 4:30 PM
hmm, tam... but when sticking to option 2), what would be a substitue expression or word?
mìkam just means in the middle
place or circumstances are not defined per se
(asking the real questions again, i know)
so yeah i guess 1) is the only option here for me :smile:
mìkam tìrey sì kxitx, mìkam fpomron sì keye'ung
kxam is only defined as middle, midpoint, it has no location or any other info to it, so yeah... will stick with that for now
thanks a lot for the input :3
TireaAean - Last Sunday at 5:02 PM
@EanaUnil nìprrte'

I just wouldn't put those cool things as a tattoo just yet, until confirmation. :grin1:(edited)
EanaUnil - Last Sunday at 5:03 PM
:smile: haha, nah, won't do x)
if i ever get a na'vi tattoo, it'll probably be the blacklight sanhì
January 30, 2017
Hahaw[hhvhhvcz] - Last Monday at 1:35 PM
^that i want - you should test it

@EanaUnil(edited)
EanaUnil - Last Monday at 3:42 PM
yeah :smiley: