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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #160 on: January 05, 2010, 11:48:33 am »
cool,nice work !
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« Reply #161 on: January 05, 2010, 02:56:11 pm »
I have two questions:
First: I know that <iv> is subjunctive, but what that means ? someone could explain to me with examples what the infix <iv> means ?

Second: what is the difference between munge and zamunge ?
kaltxí ngaru lu fpom srak?

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #162 on: January 05, 2010, 04:59:27 pm »
Is there some files in finnish? Im not so good in english :D

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« Reply #163 on: January 06, 2010, 01:34:43 am »
We have just added a useful link to a really nice document about the affixes, you should download it. ;)
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« Reply #164 on: January 06, 2010, 07:22:13 am »
I have two questions:
First: I know that <iv> is subjunctive, but what that means ? someone could explain to me with examples what the infix <iv> means ?

Second: what is the difference between munge and zamunge ?

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #165 on: January 06, 2010, 08:00:47 am »
It means that the verb in question is being used in a clause, or, given the rampant amount of examples on here, that it is an infinitive. (We're not frankly sure which.)

I want to kill.
Want there is the indicative verb, the normal one.
To kill is the subjunctive, as it's verb phrase is taking the place of the normal accusative noun phrase.

I love that I eat.
Same here. More obvious, because it's marked by futa.

As for munge and zamunge, I speculate that zamunge has more to do with a movement, as *za is a stem I've noticed. But really, there isn't a difference as far as we know.

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #166 on: January 06, 2010, 08:02:29 am »
I have two questions:
First: I know that <iv> is subjunctive, but what that means ? someone could explain to me with examples what the infix <iv> means ?

Second: what is the difference between munge and zamunge ?

aspect and moods are difficult to explain to English speakers as in English they are incorporated into tenses.

this table might help a bit.

If not, the subjunctive is used for uncertain things, if I were rich, if I were to be an avatar; or in subordinate clauses such as I would fight you if I were taller.

(underlined words are subjunctive).



as for munge/zamunge, I'm not sure there is one. As it defines zamunge as bring and munge as take/bring in the pocket guide I think it might be best if zamunge is used when there is a dative (bring the bow to me) and munge when there isn't (take the bow)
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #167 on: January 06, 2010, 12:46:34 pm »
if insanity is keyeúng,what is insane??
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #168 on: January 06, 2010, 12:47:56 pm »
if insanity is keyeúng,what is insane??
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I suppose it would be lekeye'ung.

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« Reply #169 on: January 06, 2010, 12:51:22 pm »
cool that's my word for cursing at people XD
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« Reply #170 on: January 06, 2010, 01:58:57 pm »
I don't have so much time those days to put the "general questions" that have been asked in the first post...if a moderator could help me I would really appreciate. ;)
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #171 on: January 06, 2010, 02:33:16 pm »
I've been placing bets with myself on how long it would take for you to ask that. ;)

Will get started. First, there is the pub.

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« Reply #172 on: January 06, 2010, 04:51:53 pm »
I have a quick question. How would you say doer as in I am a doer not a dreamer?

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« Reply #173 on: January 06, 2010, 04:58:10 pm »
well the verb for do/make is "si" and the suffix to cahnge a verb into the person that does it is "-yu" so a "doer/maker" would be "siyu" (there could possibly be some lenition that affects this do to the similarity between the sounds "i" and "y" but we don't have enough information to know that this time)

So you'd probably be fine with "siyu"

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #174 on: January 06, 2010, 05:34:02 pm »
Does anyone have any tips for making the trilled "rr" sound?

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #175 on: January 06, 2010, 07:53:54 pm »
..quick question, new here, but just wondering, is there a difference between just the "infinitive" such as lu (to be) and using the infix <er> (possibly leru)? Is the first present tense while the second present progressive? Irayo!
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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #176 on: January 06, 2010, 08:23:30 pm »
There are topics out there about trilled r's.

..quick question, new here, but just wondering, is there a difference between just the "infinitive" such as lu (to be) and using the infix <er> (possibly leru)? Is the first present tense while the second present progressive? Irayo!

Yes. lu is not the infinitive. It is the copula: the word for a, be, is, am, are.

Oe taronyu lu. <- I am taronyu.

<er> is used for imperfective aspect. This means that the noun is continuing in action.

oe taronyu l<er>u. <- I am being taronyu.

One is a verb, the other shows, in whatever tense it is, that the action is an ongoing one.

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« Reply #177 on: January 06, 2010, 08:30:57 pm »
irayo! so essentially, <er> is imperfect, or progressive, suggesting an ongoing action, rather than "unconjugated " forms of a verb, which are solely present tense? Correct if i'm wrong:

Ayoe<l> ikran<ti> taron : We hunt ikran

vs

Ayoe<l> ikran<ti> t<er>aron : We are hunting ikran (as in a continuous, ongoing event) ?  ???

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Re: [For Beginners] FAQ (please ask your questions here)
« Reply #178 on: January 06, 2010, 08:34:33 pm »
irayo! so essentially, <er> is imperfect, or progressive, suggesting an ongoing action, rather than "unconjugated " forms of a verb, which are solely present tense? Correct if i'm wrong:

Ayoe<l> ikran<ti> taron : We hunt ikran

vs

Ayoe<l> ikran<ti> t<er>aron : We are hunting ikran (as in a continuous, ongoing event) ?  ???

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Correctomundo.

Also, remember that it can be ongoing in the past, or in the future.

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« Reply #179 on: January 07, 2010, 08:29:16 am »
i don`t know if this has been posted somewhere but what does nge mean since i can`t find it.
Personally i don`t take the Na`vi as alien because i think i understand them.

When I look on the news and see what horrible things are happening around the world I can`t help but wonder what is the source of them and therefore my own race is becoming more and more alien to me as time passes by.

Does that make any sense?

 

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