Archaic's fanfic dialogue help thread

[Plumps]

Finally found it, ASG page 44 .....

Persona Belongings Rack

Na'vi name: P'ah s'ivil chey, or informally, chey

Hmm.

The official Frommarian form of that is snokfyan

[Toliman]

Yeah, snokfyan... I remember now, how I could forgot it

[archaic]

Meirayo!



How would a native speaker say "you will never say it"?
The 'it' is a person's name (if that is relevant).

[Toliman]

Kea tìkin!

How would a native speaker say "you will never say it"?
The 'it' is a person's name (if that is relevant).

"Nga kawkrr ke paylltxe" (but I am not sure whether meaning is exactly that what you meant)

[archaic]

"Oeru syaw Peyafwi te Tsanten Ansitite, [and you will never say it]."

[Toliman]

"Oeru syaw Peyafwi te Tsanten Ansitite, [and you will never say it]."

Then I would say:
"Oeru syaw Peyafwi te Tsanten Ansitite, [ulte ngal kawkrr paylltxe pumit]."
(I just hope that it's gramatically right)

[Plumps]

"Oeru syaw Peyafwi te Tsanten Ansitite, [and you will never say it]."

Then I would say:
"Oeru syaw Peyafwi te Tsanten Ansitite, [ulte ngal kawkrr paylltxe pumit]."
(I just hope that it's gramatically right)

FYI, that's not how pum works. Pum is used to denote another thing out of a collected entity ... I don't know how else to describe it.

Kelku ngeyä lu tsawl, pum ngeyä lu hì'i.
Your house is big, mine is small.

I.e., it's not the same house.

In the example, it = name = Peyafwi

I'd say,

oeru syaw P. te Ts. A. ulte ngal tsat ke paylltxe kawkrr. (remember that when using kawkrr, the verb has to be negated as well)

Although that sounds also weird to me because of the idiomaticity of "I'm called X" – it's also weird in English.

You could go literal and say oeyä tstxo lu P. te Ts. A. ulte ngal tsat ke paylltxe kawkrr.

tsat = that = name

[archaic]

I'm going to tweak the fanfic and go with "Oeru syaw Peyafwi te Tsanten Ansitite ulte ngal tsat ke paylltxe kawkrr"

Massive Irayo to both of you!!!


 

[Toliman]

Massive Irayo to both of you!!!

Kea tìkin

[archaic]

So, this might not be the best thread to ask this question, but I was looking at the Phonetics section now something is bothering me. Shouldn't the name of the Pandoran indigenous peoples be spelled 'Nä'vi'?

[Toliman]

Spelled with "ä" instead "a"?

[archaic]

Exactly.

[Toliman]

Hmm... I would say that it's really "a"...at least according to this:

Na'vi	IPA	Literal	Approximate English Example
a	a	aah	"father"
ä	æ	ahh	"cat", "pack"

https://forum.learnnavi.org/pronunciation-phonetics/alphabet-81/msg997/#msg997

What you found in the Phonetics section about it?

[Plumps]

So, this might not be the best thread to ask this question, but I was looking at the Phonetics section now something is bothering me. Shouldn't the name of the Pandoran indigenous peoples be spelled 'Nä'vi'?

Short answer: no. 

Depending on the English dialect you speak it's very dangerous to compare sounds like "a as in father". The IPA is so much clearer with that. The Na'vi a is a 'pure' vowel sound (as far as I know as in the Italian language). The ä is very different. And KP pronounces it as Na'vi.

[archaic]

What is the past tense of 'aku?

[Toliman]

What is the past tense of 'aku?

'amaku

[archaic]

Irayo!

[Toliman]

Kea tìkin

[archaic]

It's been a while, but, how should I say "I made tea"?

I got 'Oel teait ngop' am I anywhere close?

[Tirea Aean]

It's been a while, but, how should I say "I made tea"? I got 'Oel teait ngop' am I anywhere close?

  I really would love to see a Na'vi word for tea.

That's pretty good.

Although at face value it suggests that you created tea. Would prepare be a better verb than create/make in this case?
Oel teati hawl?