pronunciation of the r in words like Srak.

Started by 'Ì'awn Menari, March 02, 2017, 09:48:49 AM

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'Ì'awn Menari

I know that the consonant r is pronounced like either tt, t or dd so for the words srak or any word with the r would it be pronounced like stak?   It was confusing me a little bit.  How can you tell when to use either of the three pronunciations of this consonant?
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Eana Unil

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I'd say it's just an extremely short rr, but just like 1x r. It's the same sound, just not trilled... if that helps lol ;D Kinda similar to how Japanese people pronounce their r-sounds imho.
It's not English or German r, it's not an l or t sound, not even d. You just form this kinda r with the tip of your tongue touching the roof of your mouth lightly, without trilling it. o.-

'Ì'awn Menari

That makes sense :) I was thrown off cause in Na'vi in a nutshell it said it was pronounced like the dd in cuddle and TT in little xD
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Plumps

If you know Spanish, it's the r in torero ... one flapped r sound. Some people have difficulties with that. I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's as if you want to cope with RP English. Everybody does it a little bit different. As long as you are understood—and you're not a perfectionist—, everything is fine ;)

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'Ì'awn Menari

Quote from: Plumps on March 02, 2017, 12:19:43 PM
If you know Spanish, it's the r in torero ... one flapped r sound. Some people have difficulties with that. I don't think it's that big of a deal. It's as if you want to cope with RP English. Everybody does it a little bit different. As long as you are understood—and you're not a perfectionist—, everything is fine ;)

Yeah, Na'vi in a Nutshell needs rework desperately
;D ... I'm working on it


hrh works for me XD

Quote from: Eana Unil on March 02, 2017, 11:51:56 AM
I'd say it's just an extremely short rr, but just like 1x r. It's the same sound, just not trilled... if that helps lol ;D Kinda similar to how Japanese people pronounce their r-sounds imho.
It's not English or German r, it's not an l or t sound, not even d. You just form this kinda r with the tip of your tongue touching the roof of your mouth lightly, without trilling it. o.-

That helps out so much irayo! =D
Lord and Lady Bless )O(
and before I forget...
Eywa ngahu! =D

Tirea Aean

Nutshell was written by American for Americans, apparently. In general, we are the only people I know who would pronounce words like bottle, puddle, etc. With a flap r sound and not a well pronounced t or d sound as written.

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Karin

Honestly I treat the single trilled /r/ alost like a dental /L/
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Tirea Aean

Quote from: Karin on March 11, 2017, 11:51:37 AM
Honestly I treat the single trilled /r/ alost like a dental /L/
r is alveolar flap/tap;
rr is alveolar trill

Na'vi language has no dental sounds. Tho it that's as close as you can get and it's understandable, I suppose it'll suffice. :)

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