Is there a Na'Vi word for "love?"

Started by Lightna, February 02, 2010, 08:33:14 AM

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A random question that popped into my head... (and also couldn't find it in the dictionaries of english-to-Na'vi.) So unless someone made it up, I'm curious if there really is a word for it.

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Quote from: Corok on February 02, 2010, 08:33:14 AM
A random question that popped into my head... (and also couldn't find it in the dictionaries of english-to-Na'vi.) So unless someone made it up, I'm curious if there really is a word for it.

Tìyawn is the word for 'love'. :)
It is in the latest version of Taronyu's dictionary that you can download from here.

Nga yawne lu oer. - You are beloved to me. - I love you.

Eywa ngahu!

Lightna

Irayo nga srung.  :)
Thank you for your help.

iloveneytiri

Quote from: tìngay mungeyu on February 02, 2010, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: Corok on February 02, 2010, 08:33:14 AM
A random question that popped into my head... (and also couldn't find it in the dictionaries of english-to-Na'vi.) So unless someone made it up, I'm curious if there really is a word for it.

Tìyawn is the word for 'love'. :)
It is in the latest version of Taronyu's dictionary that you can download from here.

Nga yawne lu oer. - You are beloved to me. - I love you.

Eywa ngahu!


Shouldn't it be "Nga yawne lu oeru" ? -ru is the dative ending. Oeru = "to me"

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Quote from: iloveneytiri on February 06, 2010, 01:28:39 AM
Shouldn't it be "Nga yawne lu oeru" ? -ru is the dative ending. Oeru = "to me"

The dative has three different allomorphs -ru, -ur, -r, the first for words that end in a vowel, the next for consonants, and a short form.

This said however, we don't quite know why the -u can be dropped at the end of -ru, but many people have suggested it is formality (the shorter form being less formal) or maybe just preference of the speaker.  Especially when the dative comes at the end of a sentence, we have often seen it shorted like this.

-Keyl  
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I thought someone got an answer out of Frommer that it's purely phonetically aesthetics whether -ru or -r is used.  But he seems to always use -r when it's the end of a sentence.
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Tseyk Tìriuä

Frommer sent me an email saying it was purely how it sounded.  I guess he at least feels its awkward to end a sentence in -ru.


Tengkrr tìsngä'i Yawäl peyä tsenget ulte kifkey Yawä'evangäti ngamop.

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I've just copied this from a site, which included a message of the maker himself.

I love you.
Nga yawne lu oer.

I see you.
Oel ngati kameie.

Don't ask me if it's -r of -ru :P
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-r and -ru are the same :D
Otherwise see the 2nd post here.
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Erimeyz

Quote from: Tseyk Tìriuä on February 06, 2010, 02:07:22 PM
Frommer sent me an email saying it was purely how it sounded.  I guess he at least feels its awkward to end a sentence in -ru.

Would you be comfortable posting the relevant portions of that email?  That would be a valuable piece of knowledge for the community to have.

  - Eri

wm.annis

Quote from: Erimeyz on February 06, 2010, 04:21:05 PMWould you be comfortable posting the relevant portions of that email?  That would be a valuable piece of knowledge for the community to have.

Well, in this he does say, "Ngar and ngaru are used interchangeably--pick the one you think sounds better in its position."

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iloveneytiri

Quote from: Keylstxatsmen on February 06, 2010, 02:54:38 AM
Quote from: iloveneytiri on February 06, 2010, 01:28:39 AM
Shouldn't it be "Nga yawne lu oeru" ? -ru is the dative ending. Oeru = "to me"

The dative has three different allomorphs -ru, -ur, -r, the first for words that end in a vowel, the next for consonants, and a short form.

This said however, we don't quite know why the -u can be dropped at the end of -ru, but many people have suggested it is formality (the shorter form being less formal) or maybe just preference of the speaker.  Especially when the dative comes at the end of a sentence, we have often seen it shorted like this.

-Keyl  


Thank you very much for your explanation, Keyl!

Na'rìng

Love = Yawn(e). There is a slight problem using it though: the word isn't a verb, it is actually a noun.
Eywa ngahu ma smukan.
Eywa'evengä yawne lu oeru.


It kraon. XD!!! (Speak it the Na'vi way)

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Quote from: Na'rìng on February 07, 2010, 02:58:08 AM
Love = Yawn(e). There is a slight problem using it though: the word isn't a verb, it is actually a noun.

Kehe, yawne = beloved, and adjective.

The noun is tìyawn as noted earlier in the thread.
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