missing word: "Win/Victory/Triumph"

Started by C'tri Atan'itan, June 13, 2010, 06:57:57 PM

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C'tri Atan'itan

was browsing through the dictionary, trying to find a way of calling someone a winner, but couldn't find anything that I could make mean that.
I was wondering if anyone has any ideas/ suggestions on the subject.

The closest I got was ueivantu
However
A. It doesn't quite mean what I want
B. I'm not sure if the positive infix can be used on verbs that are turned to adjectives.

so, if anyone knows the right word for what I want, or shed light on point B. then I would be greatful :3

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We don't have a word for win, but we do have succeed (flä) - so, the word for someone who succeeds would be fläyu; that's what I would use.

Quote from: C'tri Atan'itan on June 13, 2010, 06:57:57 PMThe closest I got was ueivantu
However
A. It doesn't quite mean what I want
B. I'm not sure if the positive infix can be used on verbs that are turned to adjectives.
In general, infixed verbs cannot have other morphology added (the participle infixes -us- and -awn- may be exceptions, as we have words like nì-z<awn>ong) but I don't see any verb or adjective there - uvan (game) is a noun; uvantu ("game-person") would also be a noun.

By the way, a couple comments about infixes:

  • They go before the vowel (or pseudovowel) of the appropriate syllable; for example, kam<ei>e, not ka<ei>me. If uvan were a verb, the -ei- infixed form would be uv<ei>an, not u<ei>van.
  • An -ei- or -äng- infix describes the speaker's attitude towards the action described, not the agent's.
Ma evi, ke'u ke lu prrte' to fwa sim tuteot ayawne.
Slä txo tuteo fmi 'ivampi ngat ro seng, fu nìfya'o, a 'eykefu ngati vä', tsakem ke lu sìltsan.
Tsaw lu ngeyä tokx! Kawtu ke tsun nìmuiä 'ivampi ngat txo ngal ke new tsakemit.
Ha kempe si nga? Nì'awve, nga plltxe san kehe. Tsakrr, ngal tsatsengti hum!

C'tri Atan'itan

Quote from: Kä'eng on June 13, 2010, 08:20:58 PM
We don't have a word for win, but we do have succeed (flä) - so, the word for someone who succeeds would be fläyu; that's what I would use.

In general, infixed verbs cannot have other morphology added (the participle infixes -us- and -awn- may be exceptions, as we have words like nì-z<awn>ong) but I don't see any verb or adjective there - uvan (game) is a noun; uvantu ("game-person") would also be a noun.

By the way, a couple comments about infixes:

  • They go before the vowel (or pseudovowel) of the appropriate syllable; for example, kam<ei>e, not ka<ei>me. If uvan were a verb, the -ei- infixed form would be uv<ei>an, not u<ei>van.
  • An -ei- or -äng- infix describes the speaker's attitude towards the action described, not the agent's.

Thanks, all 3 of those points were new/ clarrifying to me :)
I reckon it'll be a while before I get the hang of working out the positions for infixes on my own, or at least getting it right xD
And the fact that its the speaker's attitude is not something I had picked up yet, so again thank you for clarrifying :)

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