Plural Possessive

Started by Maweya tswonyu, January 08, 2011, 06:04:23 AM

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Maweya tswonyu

Kaltxì guys.

Does anyone have any idea where to place the genitive suffix if there are multiple agents?

e.g. "Mine and his."
"You are like a baby, making noise, don't know what to do" - Neytiri Te Tskaha Mo'at'ite

"All energy is borrowed, and one day you have to give it back."

Ikran Ahiyìk

Oeyä _____ peyä ...



But when would this happen? Mine and his what then what..?
Plltxe nìhiyìk na ikran... oe fmeri sìltsan nì'ul slivu, ngaytxoa...


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Maweyatan

#2
Perhaps, "oeyä muntxate alu Sorewn peyä muntxatehu alu Neytiri parmlltxe."


Maweyatan

#3
I'm not sure, though, because couldn't we also use the pronoun, "pum"?

oeyä muntxate alu Sorewn peyä pumhu alu Neytiri parmlltxe


Ikran Ahiyìk

Quote from: Maweyatan on January 08, 2011, 06:56:18 AM
I'm not sure, though, because couldn't we also use the pronoun, "pum"?

oeyä muntxate alu Sorewn peyä pumhu alu Neytiri parmlltxe
I think he is asking about some single thing posses to more than one agent... but I don't know when would this happen...
In your example the two "wifes" are not the same person

???
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Maweyatan

OH!

Possibly it'd be moeyä?

"moeyä tìpängkxo"


Ikran Ahiyìk

#6
Ignore these wrong things.
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Carborundum

Quote from: Ikran Ahiyìk on January 08, 2011, 08:37:42 AM
Moeyä -> mine and yours

but I have ho idea about... mine and his -> ?? ???
Moeyä = mine and his/hers
Oengeyä = mine and yours
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wm.annis

From the Weaving Song:

  Tompayä kato, tsawkeyä kato,
  trrä sì txonä,


So, you can connect the possessors with .

Ikran Ahiyìk

Quote from: Carborundum on January 08, 2011, 08:43:03 AM
Quote from: Ikran Ahiyìk on January 08, 2011, 08:37:42 AM
Moeyä -> mine and yours

but I have ho idea about... mine and his -> ?? ???
Moeyä = mine and his/hers
Oengeyä = mine and yours
Oh I am always so careless...

But that "he/she" can be someone far away, can't be included by moe sometimes
Plltxe nìhiyìk na ikran... oe fmeri sìltsan nì'ul slivu, ngaytxoa...


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Ftiafpi

Quote from: Ikran Ahiyìk on January 08, 2011, 10:24:12 AM
Quote from: Carborundum on January 08, 2011, 08:43:03 AM
Quote from: Ikran Ahiyìk on January 08, 2011, 08:37:42 AM
Moeyä -> mine and yours

but I have ho idea about... mine and his -> ?? ???
Moeyä = mine and his/hers
Oengeyä = mine and yours
Oh I am always so careless...

But that "he/she" can be someone far away, can't be included by moe sometimes
The dual, trial, and plural pronouns don't always refer to people close at hand, they just refer to a group of people. This group can be defined by context:

Oel talmaron hu Neytiri sì Jake Sully trram. Pxoel yerikit tolaron.
I went hunting with Neytiri and Jake Sully yesterday. We (three) hunted a hexapede.

Ikran Ahiyìk

Quote from: Ftiafpi on January 14, 2011, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: Ikran Ahiyìk on January 08, 2011, 10:24:12 AM
Quote from: Carborundum on January 08, 2011, 08:43:03 AM
Quote from: Ikran Ahiyìk on January 08, 2011, 08:37:42 AM
Moeyä -> mine and yours

but I have ho idea about... mine and his -> ?? ???
Moeyä = mine and his/hers
Oengeyä = mine and yours
Oh I am always so careless...

But that "he/she" can be someone far away, can't be included by moe sometimes
The dual, trial, and plural pronouns don't always refer to people close at hand, they just refer to a group of people. This group can be defined by context:

Oel talmaron hu Neytiri sì Jake Sully trram. Pxoel yerikit tolaron.
I went hunting with Neytiri and Jake Sully yesterday. We (three) hunted a hexapede.
So now it's end..
For some cases we can use moeyä, pxoeyä, ayoeyä, if not we still can use to link (but is there any rules?).
Plltxe nìhiyìk na ikran... oe fmeri sìltsan nì'ul slivu, ngaytxoa...


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