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Started by Kxanìa 'awpo, January 24, 2010, 06:02:57 PM

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Kxanìa 'awpo

Well, Im new and I would really like to learn the language. Where should I start, how should I practice, can you give me any advice that might help? Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.

PS: Is my user name correct? I just scanned through the dictionary and found a couple words to string together. It should be Forbidden One in English but without knowing correct Na'vi grammer I cant really know for sure.
"They've sent us a message... that they can take whatever they want. Well we will send them a message. That this... this is our land!" -Juke Sully

SanguineEpitaph

I started by reading the Pocket Guide, and then I did some worksheets that I found floating around here. I then continued to read the Pocket Guide to further my understanding, but, I must say, this forum is an invaluable tool. You can write practice phrases and stuff and then get feedback from other people!! It's been the BIGGEST help for me in the last week or so. :P


Good luck!
Kuarŏ na nama tanayi cawŏŏt, kuo nim zaosmaŏt.
"Out of what crypt they crawl, I cannot tell."

Kìte'eyä Aungia

#2
The Pocket Guide is probably the best place to start:

Begin by looking over the phonology and practicing your pronunciation. Take a look at the alphabet thread in the pronunciation/phonetics section and listen to the audio/video examples available around the site. The creator of the language recently sent us an audio letter which you can listen to here: http://masempul.org/upxare-niinglisi/ If you don't know anything about phonetics or IPA, many of the confusing terms are outlined in the crash course in linguistic terminology used for Na'vi document, though learning about them isn't necessary.

The above and other useful documents can be found here:
http://forum.learnnavi.org/beginners/%28for-beginners%29-links-to-useful-documents/

Once you feel comfortable with the sounds of the language, move on to grammar. Learning everything at once may be a bit overboard, but make sure you at least pick up the pronouns, the dual/trial/plural markers, and the case system. With these tools, you should be able to construct very basic sentences.

After you have the basic grammar down, start working on vocabulary. Whenever you learn a new word, practice using it in a sentence.

Finally, go back and cover anything in the grammar that you skipped. Personally, I didn't bother memorizing a single infix until I'd learned a whole bunch of verbs to play around with. As you learn more vocabulary and more of the grammar, try checking out some of the example sentence threads in the beginners section.

Angtsìk Makto

I was a science major in college and only had the required minimum grammer education during high school, so the Crash course in linguistic terminology used for Na'vi was immensely helpful in understanding the gramatical terms and rules for me.

Ftiafpi

Quote from: Kxanì awpo on January 24, 2010, 06:02:57 PM
Well, Im new and I would really like to learn the language. Where should I start, how should I practice, can you give me any advice that might help? Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.

PS: Is my user name correct? I just scanned through the dictionary and found a couple words to string together. It should be Forbidden One in English but without knowing correct Na'vi grammer I cant really know for sure.

Kaltxì ma tsmukan
(welcome brother)

Your name is perfect except you forgot the ' on 'awpo

Eywa ngahu
(Eywa be with you)

Kxanìa 'awpo

#5
Quote from: Ftiafpi on January 24, 2010, 07:04:34 PM
Your name is perfect except you forgot the ' on 'awpo

Thanks, I didnt notice.

As for everyone else, thank you and Ill check out some of the links.
"They've sent us a message... that they can take whatever they want. Well we will send them a message. That this... this is our land!" -Juke Sully

Orgotloth

I'd also hop in the irc and/or skype channels, thy've been the biggest help to me thus far.

heres a link to how to get to them:

http://forum.learnnavi.org/website-info/na%27vi-skype-and-irc/

It gives you quick feedback as well as someone to talk to while you learn.

hufwesiyu

Might I suggest Kxanìa 'awpo, given that kxanì is an adjective ?

Eywa ngahu.

Ftiafpi

Quote from: hufwesiyu on January 24, 2010, 09:00:42 PM
Might I suggest Kxanìa 'awpo, given that kxanì is an adjective ?

Eywa ngahu.

I agree, it should have an -a- affix.

kewnya txamew'itan

Quote from: hufwesiyu on January 24, 2010, 09:00:42 PM
Might I suggest Kxanìa 'awpo, given that kxanì is an adjective ?

Eywa ngahu.


Took the words from my mouth.

To explain to Kxanì, -a- is used on adjectives to 'point towards' the noun they describe so you could write forbidden person as kxanì-a 'awpo or 'awpo a-kxanì.

This doesn't apply if the adjective is being used with a coupla verb (fancy linguistic term for a verb where an adjective is behaving a bit like the object).
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hufwesiyu

QuoteThis doesn't apply if the adjective is being used with a coupla verb

A bit along the lines of Kxanì 'awpo lu ? Kinda "The one [who?] is forbidden"...

Eywa ngahu.

kewnya txamew'itan

Internet Acronyms Nìna'vi

hamletä tìralpuseng lena'vi sngolä'eiyi. tìkangkem si awngahu ro
http://bit.ly/53GnAB
The translation of Hamlet into Na'vi has started! Join with us at http://bit.ly/53GnAB

txo nga new oehu pivlltxe nìna'vi, nga oer 'eylan si mì fayspuk (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)
If you want to speak na'vi to me, friend me on facebook (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)

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Kxanìa 'awpo

Quote from: tìkawngä mungeyu on January 25, 2010, 02:03:48 PM
Quote from: hufwesiyu on January 24, 2010, 09:00:42 PM
Might I suggest Kxanìa 'awpo, given that kxanì is an adjective ?

Eywa ngahu.


Took the words from my mouth.

To explain to Kxanì, -a- is used on adjectives to 'point towards' the noun they describe so you could write forbidden person as kxanì-a 'awpo or 'awpo a-kxanì.

This doesn't apply if the adjective is being used with a coupla verb (fancy linguistic term for a verb where an adjective is behaving a bit like the object).

Oh, ok, thats interesting. I barely know the alphabet at this point so I wouldnt have gotten that on my own.
"They've sent us a message... that they can take whatever they want. Well we will send them a message. That this... this is our land!" -Juke Sully

kewnya txamew'itan

No problem, and I'm glad that some people are learning the alphabet/pronunciation first, it's very important.  :)
Internet Acronyms Nìna'vi

hamletä tìralpuseng lena'vi sngolä'eiyi. tìkangkem si awngahu ro
http://bit.ly/53GnAB
The translation of Hamlet into Na'vi has started! Join with us at http://bit.ly/53GnAB

txo nga new oehu pivlltxe nìna'vi, nga oer 'eylan si mì fayspuk (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)
If you want to speak na'vi to me, friend me on facebook (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)

numena'viyä hapxì amezamkivohinve
learnnavi's

Kxanìa 'awpo

Quote from: tìkawngä mungeyu on January 26, 2010, 11:35:08 AM
No problem, and I'm glad that some people are learning the alphabet/pronunciation first, it's very important.  :)

Most people dont learn the alphabet first? That just seems ignorant to even try to learn a language without knowing that, how would you pronounce words correctly?
"They've sent us a message... that they can take whatever they want. Well we will send them a message. That this... this is our land!" -Juke Sully