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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #140 on: May 11, 2013, 08:42:18 pm »
Pelun ke tsun fko pivlltxe san tskofa tem? Nìngay lì'fyari leRuski tsafya fko plltxe...


Fì-kem tsunslu tì'efu-mì oe-yä. Ral slu nì'Ìnglìsì san shoot a bow (shoot with a bow).


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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #141 on: May 11, 2013, 08:47:52 pm »
Karyu Pawl-ìl awnga-ru t<alm>ìng tìkenong-it
fìtsenge: http://naviteri.org/2010/09/getting-to-know-you-part-3/

holpxay mrrvolaw. Oe tskxekeng si säsulìnur alu tsko swizaw.



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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #142 on: May 11, 2013, 09:00:24 pm »
Eltur tìtxen si. Tskofa tem, srak? Suneiu oeru.


Oe säpawm ftxey fnayan oel futa tsko swizaw fuke  :-\ :D
Ngian, furia tsko swizaw sayunu oer ulte layu 'o' nìtxan 'efu am'ake oe nìwotx. :)


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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #143 on: May 11, 2013, 09:07:29 pm »

Oe päpawm ftxey fnayan oel futa tsko swizaw fuke  :-\ :D
Ngian, furia tsko swizaw sayunu oer ulte layu 'o' nìtxan 'efu am'ake oe nìwotx. :)


Oeri nìteng. Oeru ke lu skxom apxay fte tsakem sivi alu tem tskofa. Oel fpìl futa oeru sunatsu nìteng. Frakrr oeru lam 'o'.

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #144 on: May 12, 2013, 01:15:15 am »
Kaltxì frapo,
Oeru txoa livu, slä tsun aynga txuvila fìkìng nìnän ep'ang?

I'm sorry but can we take this down a couple of notches? I am a total beginner and from what I see right now, it makes me even more apprehensive to post. I am not confident in my abilities as it is and to see all this nìNa'vi nì'aw talk flying around doesn't help either. For people like me, it just widens the gap even more, I'm sorry to say this. I am very good with Memrise but when it comes down to putting it all together I fail miserably. And the thing that actually works for me is the one thing I am not allowed to do here; to write Na'vi'ìnglìsì because it allows me to "ease" into it more gradually without feeling so inadequate. :-[

English is actually required here, in spoiler tags. click on the spoilers. :)

Actually this is interesting as i've been reading all the posts via email ( which for me is sometimes easier. )
and tbh they hit the nail right on the head. I think you will find that Karyu Pawl said this is EXACTLY the kinda thing that people might say if they see TONS of comments on his blog in nìNa'vi. I forget if it was on his blog i read his comment or if it was on that Nova site with the recent documentary about him.. but he clearly said that those not yet familiar but wanting to learn might feel separated or alienated vs those that are reasonably fluent. I think that's even why this forum has a Beginners , intermediate, Advanced, and nìNa'vi nì'aw.  
Edit : I found it.

http://naviteri.org/2010/06/irayo-thank-you-and-some-miscellaneous-thoughts/
"Na’vi-only comments have both pros and cons:

PROS: They reinforce the idea that Na’vi is not a game but a means of genuine communication. They also give writers a chance to use their Na’vi in a public way and give others a chance to practice their reading comprehension. Providing an English translation of every Na’vi post would defeat those purposes. (For example, it’s hard to resist going immediately to the translation rather than puzzling out the Na’vi for yourself without help, a more productive activity.) They also give beginners a sense of how far some Community members have come and provide the incentive for them to get there themselves.

CONS: Na’vi-only comments are directed to a relatively small audience (assuming the blog will eventually get traffic from newcomers!) and create the sense of insiders vs. outsiders. They can be off-putting to new arrivals and curious people who have not yet learned much, if anything, of the language, who might react to the blog with, “Whoa. This is much too advanced for me.” And they might also imply that posters who write in English only are somehow not measuring up."

Ma Swoka, aysäplltxevi ngeyä, oe 'efu keftxo nì'aw.  It is true that I encourage you strongly not to use Na'vinglish.  But I don't mean for this to scare anyone.  Yes, some of the sentences used here are complex.  And that could be simplified.  For example:

Oeyä palukantsyìp lu layon.  My cat is black.
Po taron nìltsan.  She hunts well.
Slä po lu hì'i nìtxan.  But she is very small.
Ngian, peyä aysre' lu apxa sì teyr.  However, her teeth are big and white.
Syaw poru Paikea.  She is called Paikea.
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #145 on: May 12, 2013, 01:58:26 am »
tsakem sivi alu tem tskofa

Tse.. lam oer fwa ke tsun fko pivlltxe tsafya. Fpìl oel futa zenke fko sivung -a- ne kemlì'u alu si, nì'aw ne tstxolì'u. Ha, tem tskofa lu a fìkem sivi a fìlì'fyavi tsun livu eyawr. Ngian kop ke sunu oer kaw'it lì'fyavi alu tem tskofa lu... Skxakep sweylu fwa poltxe san tivem tskofa sìk, kefyak? Nga plltxe teri kem, kea teri lì'u fu pam tseyä. Ha ral lì'uä tsranten...

Nìsung oeri eltur tìtxen si fya'o a sivung aylì'ut ne kemlì'u a hu si. Natkenong:

  [namew srekrr a fìkem] si oe
  [fìkem a namew srekrr] si oe
  oe [fìkem] si [a namew srekrr]

Nìngay lam oer fwa syena tìkenong keyawr lu. 'Awvea pum skxakep lu eyawr. Ulte pumìri amuve ke omum oe..

Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #146 on: May 12, 2013, 07:08:09 am »
tsakem sivi alu tem tskofa

Tse.. lam oer fwa ke tsun fko pivlltxe tsafya. Fpìl oel futa zenke fko sivung -a- ne kemlì'u alu si, nì'aw ne tstxolì'u. Ha, tem tskofa lu a fìkem sivi a fìlì'fyavi tsun livu eyawr. Ngian kop ke sunu oer kaw'it lì'fyavi alu tem tskofa lu... Skxakep sweylu fwa poltxe san tivem tskofa sìk, kefyak? Nga plltxe teri kem, kea teri lì'u fu pam tseyä. Ha ral lì'uä tsranten...

Nìsung oeri eltur tìtxen si fya'o a sivung aylì'ut ne kemlì'u a hu si. Natkenong:

  [namew srekrr a fìkem] si oe
  [fìkem a namew srekrr] si oe
  oe [fìkem] si [a namew srekrr]

Nìngay lam oer fwa syena tìkenong keyawr lu. 'Awvea pum skxakep lu eyawr. Ulte pumìri amuve ke omum oe..



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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #147 on: May 12, 2013, 07:11:44 am »

Oe päpawm ftxey fnayan oel futa tsko swizaw fuke  :-\ :D
Ngian, furia tsko swizaw sayunu oer ulte layu 'o' nìtxan 'efu am'ake oe nìwotx. :)


Oeri nìteng. Oeru ke lu skxom apxay fte tsakem sivi alu tem tskofa. Oel fpìl futa oeru sunatsu nìteng. Frakrr oeru lam 'o'.

Mamay’ oe kem alu sar tskxo swizawit alo a’a’aw, krr a oe lu ‘eveng. Tsakem si oe krr a numtsengä sute sop fte ’awm si. Lu ngäzìk nìtxan, slä lu ‘o’ nìtxan!

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #148 on: May 12, 2013, 08:19:30 am »
You can also use alu conversationally as an “explainer,” in the sense of “that is to say” or “in other words”:

Srane, irayo. Ngian, tì'efumì oeyä, ral fìlì'uä a mì sìkenong keteng lu:

  Txoa livu, yawne lu oer Sorewn . . . alu . . . ke tsun oeng muntxa slivu.

Tslam oe fìfya: [yawne lu oer Sorewn] a faylì'uä ral lu fwa ke tsun oeng muntxa slivu. Slä ngeyä lì'fyavimì alu [oeru ke lu skxom apxay fte tsakem sivi] a faylì'uä ral lu fwa tem tskofa ke tsun fko tsafya pivlltxe, kefyak?

Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #149 on: May 12, 2013, 08:34:47 am »
You can also use alu conversationally as an “explainer,” in the sense of “that is to say” or “in other words”:

Srane, irayo. Ngian, tì'efumì oeyä, ral fìlì'uä a mì sìkenong keteng lu:

  Txoa livu, yawne lu oer Sorewn . . . alu . . . ke tsun oeng muntxa slivu.

Tslam oe fìfya: [yawne lu oer Sorewn] a faylì'uä ral lu fwa ke tsun oeng muntxa slivu. Slä ngeyä lì'fyavimì alu [oeru ke lu skxom apxay fte tsakem sivi] a faylì'uä ral lu fwa tem tskofa ke tsun fko tsafya pivlltxe, kefyak?


Hmmm... srane.. tam. tslolam. Ngaru tìyawr. irayo. +1


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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #150 on: May 12, 2013, 01:30:56 pm »
Kaltxì ma frapo! :)
Tsole'a oel rusìka relit alu Game of Thrones ulte sunu oer nìtxan. Sunu ngar fìpum nìteng?
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #151 on: May 12, 2013, 01:32:56 pm »
Kaltxì ma frapo! :)
Tsole'a oel rusìka relit alu Game of Thrones ulte sunu oer nìtxan. Sunu ngar fìpum nìteng?

Kaltxì! Tsat ke tsole'a oel mi.


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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #152 on: May 12, 2013, 08:22:23 pm »
Kaltxì, ma tsmukan. Oe nìteng nari ke tolìng rsarelur arusikx, slä tsame'a oel ro fängkxotsengo alahe futa pamrel si suteo san tsantsana rel arusikx :)

Tìsung. Set tslolam oel teyngta pelun nga ke zarma'u trro :)

Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #153 on: May 12, 2013, 08:45:57 pm »
Kaltxì ma smuk,

oe tolìng nari fìrelur arusikx alu Game Of Thrones. Slä 'awvea ayhapxì nì'aw. Samunu oer :) Sweylu txo aynga tivìng nari pumur, tì'efumì oeyä, pum lu txantsan. ;)


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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #154 on: May 13, 2013, 04:35:19 am »
Oe-l t<ìy>ìng nari-t tsa-r pxiset :D
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #155 on: May 13, 2013, 10:43:19 am »
Oe tìamng nari alu Game of Thrones 'awve mune aypapxì sre nìpxay aytrr. Pum lu txantsan nìtxan.

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #156 on: May 13, 2013, 11:11:01 am »
Oe tìamng nari alu Game of Thrones 'awve mune aypapxì sre nìpxay aytrr. Pum lu txantsan nìtxan.

Tìyawrìri pivlltxe oe san Oe tamìng nari 'awvea mehapxìru fìrelä arusikx alu Game Of Thrones kam pxaya trr. Pum lu txantsan nìwotx.

Fko tsun pivlltxe lì'ut alu nìtxan a livu eyawr a fì'ut oel fpìl, slä tì'efumì oeyä lì'u alu nìwotx livu me'em nì'ul. :)



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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #157 on: May 13, 2013, 02:02:11 pm »
Oe tamìng nari 'awvea mehapxìru ulte tseyea pxeyvea.
'Ava hapxìtsyìp mì fratrrkive.

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #158 on: May 14, 2013, 09:34:23 am »
Lu mowan oe-r tsa-tuté alu Tenerìsì, po l<ei>u sevin nì-txan nang. Lu sute-ru alu Tosraki lì'fya a eltu-r tì-txen si, kefyak?
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread
« Reply #159 on: May 14, 2013, 10:24:59 am »
Sran, oe mllteie ngahu nìwotx :) Tenerìsì lu sevin, seykxel yueysì nìtxan ulte Tosìraki leiu me'em, slä sunu oeru lìfya leNa'vi nì'ul nìtxan. :P


 

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