Pivängkxo nìNa'vi Ko! Beginner Na'vi Chat Thread

[Nongyu te Syulang Swokioang'itan]

Kaltxì ma smukan


'Upxare asyen oeyä nulkrrto zìsìtkam, ulte oel lì'fya leNa'vit ke sar fìkrrka. Äomelì'ukìngìl ftu rel arusikxit alu Hunger Games za'u. Omerum pumit ngal srak?

Kem ahiyìk fìtsengmì lamen.
Livu ke hiyìk nì'ul txo ayoeng ultxa sivi utraläo.


Make shorter sentences, they said. It will make learning easier, they said. No, I will make everyone's head ache, I said.
Seriously though, I'd love some feedback on this. I realize it's probably full of errors, but I've all but given up trying to systematically read about grammar and then gradually implement increasingly complex concepts in my sentences. (I just wanna write stuff, ya know?) Even if that's the way it should be done, heh 

[Toliman]

Kaltxì ma Nongyu te Syulang Swokioang'itan Lu sìltsan fwa nga zama'u fìtsenge nìmun

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Hello, Nongyu te Syulang Swokioang'itan It's nice that you came here again

Äomelì'ukìngìl ftu rel arusikxit alu Hunger Games za'u. Omerum pumit ngal srak?

Kem ahiyìk fìtsengmì lamen.
Livu ke hiyìk nì'ul txo ayoeng ultxa sivi utraläo.

Arel arusikxit alu Hunger Games - srane, oel omum pumit Tsalì'ukìng amuve lu ta tìrol alu Hanging Tree. Tsatìrol sunu oeru nìtxan
Txantsana tìralpeng nìNa'vi fìtìrolä ayoengru lu fìtsenge: https://forum.learnnavi.org/pamtseo-ninavi-niaw/loma-kelutral-(the-hanging-tree)/

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Movie Hunger games - yes, I know it These two sentences are from song Hanging Tree I like this song
Nice Na'vi translation of this song we have here: https://forum.learnnavi.org/pamtseo-ninavi-niaw/loma-kelutral-(the-hanging-tree)/

Make shorter sentences, they said. It will make learning easier, they said. No, I will make everyone's head ache, I said.
Seriously though, I'd love some feedback on this. I realize it's probably full of errors, but I've all but given up trying to systematically read about grammar and then gradually implement increasingly complex concepts in my sentences. (I just wanna write stuff, ya know?) Even if that's the way it should be done, heh 

Don't worry We all doing misakes sometimes.

Äomelì'ukìngìl ftu ta rel arusikxit alu Hunger Games za'u.

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There you have use ta because ftu means from (as direction) but not from (as origin).

maybe I would translate it rather as:
Melì'ukìng a nong fìtsenge za'u ta rel arusikxit alu Hunger Games.

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Two sentences, which follow here, come from the movie Hunger Games. ... Now I hope that my translation is right

[Lynxcat]

Kaltxì ma frapo!  Ngaru lu fpom srak?

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It's been awhile! I apologize if I make any mistakes.

[Toliman]

Kaltxì ma frapo!  Ngaru lu fpom srak?

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It's been awhile! I apologize if I make any mistakes.

Kaltxì ma Lynxcat Oeru lu fpom, ngaru tut? Pehem soli (ay)nga fìtrr?

[Nongyu te Syulang Swokioang'itan]

Irayo nìtxan ma Toliman! Rel arusikxit alu Avatar tsole'a oel 'a'awa aytrr kam ulte päpe'un oe fìtsengit frrfen.

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Thank you very much, Toliman! I watched Avatar a couple days ago and decided I (should) visit this place.
Originally I wanted to write "...which made me miss this place". Two problems with that: how to translate "which" in this case, and how to "make" someone do something. I don't suppose rä'ä would do the trick here?

Txantsana tìralpeng nìNa'vi fìtìrolä ayoengru lu fìtsenge

Nang! Satit ke omolum oel! Tsarya'u oel mìkìngit

Äomelì'ukìngìl ftu ta rel arusikxit alu Hunger Games za'u

Irayo. Tslolam oe lì'ut alu ftu akeyawr lu slä ke rolun eyawra lì'ut.

[Toliman]

Kea tìkin

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Originally I wanted to write "...which made me miss this place". Two problems with that: how to translate "which" in this case, and how to "make" someone do something. I don't suppose rä'ä would do the trick here?

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A which B is possible translase as A a B

We have sleyku = make become so maybe I would translate your sentence "...which made me miss this place" as: "... a sleykolu futa oel holan fìtsengeti" however I am not sure that holan (h<ol>an) is right word here...

[Eana Unil]

Kaltxì mengar ^^ New pamrel sivi fìtseng nì'aw nì'it fte zeykivo keyeytsyìpit Nongyuä Tivam srak?

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Nang! Satit ke omolum oel! Tsarya'u oel mìkìngit 

Nang can't be used on it's own, it's put last in a sentence to vocalize surprise. For a single word interjection that would transport similar meaning we have "tewti" or "wou" for example

Satit ke omolum oel! -> Tsat ke olomum oel!
Tsat comes from tsa'ut; first position infixes in omum and inan for example are put before their first vowel (irregular verbs like this are pretty rare tho)

Tsarya'u oel mìkìngit -> ? I can't really tell what words you were trying to use here, hrh Tìng mikyun maybe? o.- ^^
You wrote "I'll check it out", so from that I'd word it as:
Mìsyay' tsat! -> from may' (taste; try, sample, evaluate, check out, testdrive), and again tsat, contracted from tsa'ut. <ìsy> is near future tense infix with determination, like "I'm (definitely) going to check that out!"

Irayo. Tslolam oe lì'ut alu ftu akeyawr lu slä ke rolun eyawra lì'ut.

You'd have to word this sentence a bit differently thanks to Na'vi grammar... in a was such as "I have understood/noticed this thing which is the word called "ftu" is wrong", which would become:
Oel tslolam/tsoleri futa lì'u alu ftu keyawr lu.   futa comes/is contracted from fì'ut a.
If you're not familiar with futa yet, try to see it sort of like this:
I have noticed this thing: the sky is blue. -> Oel tsoleri futa: taw ean lu. We need it in order to make transitive verbs work with subclauses like that.
Lì'u lu keyawr doesn't need -a- attached to the adjective here, because you're saying "the word is wrong", and not "the wrong word" which would become "lì'u akeyawr".
So applied to the whole sentence:
Oel tslolam/tsoleri futa lì'u alu ftu keyawr lu, slä ke rolun eyawra lì'ut (oel). Lì'ut in the second part after slä would be correct again, because of the implied/omitted oel.

Hope this helped a bit Ha det bra

[Toliman]

Srane, Eana Unilur lu tìngay  Irayo
Tsakeyeytsyìpìri oel ke tsoleri pumit. Oeyä Na'vi ke lu txantsan nìtut.

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Yeah, Eana Unil ir right Thanks
I didn't notice that mystakes. My Na'vi is still not excellent.

Ulte kaltxì ma Eana Unil

[Nongyu te Syulang Swokioang'itan]

Ma Toliman: Tslam oe... Fpìl oel lì'ut alu a angäzìk tsleram sì serar lu, slä tìkenongit aralnga' ngayä lu. Tìralpengit ngayä sìltsan leram, slä ke oel lì'ut alu han lì'upukmì run. Tsun lì'u alu 'anla fu alu lom ayoengil sar srak?

Irayo ma Eana!

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I'd reply in Na'vi, but that would take me way too long lol. Thank you for such a thorough correction, it's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm still trying to chart all the translations of "that" (tsat, futa, etc), and knowing the origins of each translation is really helpful. I was thinking "ts<ary>a'u oel mì-kìngit", meaning "I will look on (that) thread". Elegant, no? Hrh

[Toliman]

Ma Toliman: Tslam oe... Fpìl oel lì'ut alu a angäzìk tsleram sì serar lu, slä tìkenongit aralnga' ngayä lu. Tìralpengit ngayä sìltsan leram, slä ke oel lì'ut alu han lì'upukmì run. Tsun lì'u alu 'anla fu alu lom ayoengil sar srak?

Srane, lì'uti alu lom ayoengìl tsun sivar.

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Yeah, we can use word "lom"
But it's needed to know that "lom" is adjective "missed" in meaning of emotional loss

Ngal fmi sivar lì'uti alu 'anla ro ngeyä lì'uking srak?

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can you try use word "'anla" in your sentence?

Your translation looks good, but I can't find "hol" in the dictionary.

Tsalì'u lamu holan (h<ol>an)

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That word was holan = han with <ol> (infix of perfective)

Sìlpey oe tsnì oel ke ngimvop kxeyeyti

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I hope that I didn't make any mistake

[Eana Unil]

Zeykìsyo nì'ul...

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Irayo ma Eana!

I'd reply in Na'vi, but that would take me way too long lol. Thank you for such a thorough correction, it's exactly what I'm looking for. I'm still trying to chart all the translations of "that" (tsat, futa, etc), and knowing the origins of each translation is really helpful. I was thinking "ts<ary>a'u oel mì-kìngit", meaning "I will look on (that) thread". Elegant, no? Hrh

Hrh, well... elegant in a way, maybe, but unfortunately completely wrong Let me explain.

Infixes such as <ol>, <iv>, <ary> etc. only go into verbs. tsa'u is a noun ('u) with tsa- beforehand, so you can't insert infixes there ^^

mì is an adposition and goes in front of a noun with a space or directly after it, but not directly connected to its front, like a prefix. So it's either mì hìng (mì is an adposition among a few others that causes lenition) or kìngmì. And even then I don't see how mì could work here. Or <ary>, an combination infix of <er> and <ay>, which would mean something like "will be doing". Why not just "going to do", <ìsy> or <asy> (near or far future with determination)?
Let's see... So, taking the three root words you used here:
tsa'u oe kìng
that I thread
Where's the "look on/at" part?  Saying, a verb's still missing ^^
How about nìn (vtr., to look at something)?
Since it's a transitive verb, we can make this into a well organized and grammar-wise correct sentence:
(oel) tsa-kìng-it n<ìsy>ìn/n<asy>ìn. -> (oel) tsakìngit nìsyìn/nasyìn.
"I'm going to look at that thread."

[Mako]

Fìtìpängkxo sunu! Tolätxaw nìprrte' ma Nongyu! Fwa ngal pxaya aylì'ut zerok lam oer, hufwa lì'ukìngìri ngeyä fko nì'it tsun srung sivi hrh

[Toliman]

Fìtìpängkxo sunu!

Oe mllte, sunu oeru nìteng

Fìking tsatsun rivey nìmun (oel nolew plltxe fì'uti: "This thread could be alive again". Sìlpey oe tsnì oeyä tìralpeng livu eyawr.)

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I wanted say this: "This thread could be live again" I hope that my translation is right.

[Nongyu te Syulang Swokioang'itan]

 
Oeyä ralit lì'u alu tse'a pamrel sivi, ke alu tsa'u.

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How do you convey embarrassment in Na'vi? The dictionary doesn't seem to have a word for it... Eana, I seem to have made a mess mixing tse'a and tsa'u. Nìn seems like a better word than tse'a anyway. Either way, I'll read up on tenses and adpositions Knowing which to use is difficult. Thanks again, I'm learning a lot more doing this than just reading and translating the nìNa'vi nì'aw section, heh.

Kaltxì ma Mako ulte kea tìkin, hrh Omum oel ulte tafral new nì'ul pamrel sivi ^^

Ma Toliman, mllte oe!

[Mako]

Oeyä ralit lì'u alu tse'a pamrel sivi, ke alu tsa'u.

Kxawm pivlltxe san lì'uri alu tse'a tup lì'uri alu tsa'u oe kan pamrel sivi. Hemlì'ul lì'una alu pamrel si ke sar patientiveit, ha lì'u alu ralit eyawr ke lu. Fko zene sivar topicalit, ulte fpìl oel futa lì'u alu kan to lì'u alu ral lu sìltsan.

How do you convey embarrassment in Na'vi? The dictionary doesn't seem to have a word for it...

Tsun sivar melì'ut alu 'ä' sì hìtxoa.

Kaltxì ma Mako ulte kea tìkin nìprrte', hrh Omum oel ulte tafral new nì'ul pamrel sivi

Txo nivew pamrel sivi nì'ul, sweylu txo ngal hapxìtuti mì Tìskort slivu, tsatseng pängkxo sì pamrel si nìtxan!

[Teyvit te Koletxi Rosarey'itan]

Maybe we're running out of beginners.

Kehe oe lu sngä'yu li'fya nìNa'vi nìteng 

Kaltxì ma frapo oe fko syaw teyvit te Kolletti ulte oe zola'u nume 
Hello everybody my name is David Colletti and im here to learn 

[Toliman]

Kalxì ma 'eylan

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Hello friend

Fyape ngeyä tìftia lì'fyayä le Na'vi salew? Oel zerok futa oeyä snga'ikrr ke lu ftue

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How going you study of Na'vi language? I remember that my beginning was not easy

[Teyvit te Koletxi Rosarey'itan]

Kaltxì ma toliman nume li'fya nìna'vi lu sìitsan slä oe zene nivume nì'ul
tìpängkxo li'fya nìNa'vi

ahh kaltxì ma toliman learning Na'vi is going better and better 
but i have to learn a lot to make a good conversation  like i do that in english 

[Toliman]

Srane, tìpängkxo nì'Na'vi lu sìltsana tskxekeng.

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Yeah, conversation in Na'vi is good excercise.

nume li'fya nìna'vi lu sìitsan slä oe zene nivume nì'ul

Lu txantsan! Oeyä sngä'ikrr ke lu ftue nìteng, tsa'u lamu txana krr...
Sìlpey oe tsnì ngeyä tìftia lìyevu sìltsan

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It's excellent! My beggining was not easy too, it was long time...
I hope that your study will be good

[Teyvit te Koletxi Rosarey'itan]

Srane nivume li'fya nìNa'vi lu swey nì'ul to li'fya nìklingon