Sentence structure?

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Quote from: blueme on February 05, 2010, 10:26:59 AM
Subordination does not in itself prescribe subjunctive. It is a mood that you need to apply when expressing statements that are contrary to the present situation (e.g. wish, possibility, etc.)
I just wanted to double check "a krr" didn't have any funky rules - because I'd never used it until now and couldn't quite remember.

Cheers fella.

Erimeyz

I'll register my complete philosophical disagreement with blueme on this particular subject.  I believe that until we get guidance on discourse-determined word order from Frommer, beginners will be best served by encouraging them to vary their word order as much as possible rather than choosing one or two or three that we know are "safe" and sticking with them.  While word order may not be completely free, we know that it is very, very flexible and that there is support in the corpus for all possible word orders, with no clear preference among them.  That flexibility is likely to remain even after Frommer settles on his rules.  In my opinion, beginners should practice reading, writing, hearing, and speaking Na'vi using any and all word orders, so that they get used to that flexibility and begin "thinking in Na'vi".

My two cents.  Keep the change. :)

  - Eri

AuLekye'ung

As someone who is very much still learning, I agree and disagree with that.

It makes it a little more confusing for beginners who start off and are told, "word sausage.  stick 'em in wherever you want."

I understand that there all the prefixes and suffixes and whateverfixes, but it helps to at least have a consistent sentence structure, at least to start with.

However, I do agree that learning any and all ways of speaking Na'vi is very important, and obviously is crucial to understanding much of what is spoken in the movie, but perhaps that freedom should be withheld until the speaker understands how everything works within a single type of structure.  I'm partial to SVO myself, primarily because I'm quite good at English structure.
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Quote from: Keye'unga Au on February 05, 2010, 10:04:53 AM
So, how does time factor into these things?  I ate my ikran when the palulukan ran.

I-ERG ate my-DAT(?) ikran-it, but what happens to the second part of the sentence? Been bothering me for awhile.

You would use "a krr" or "krr a"

So I ate my ikran when the palulukan ran would be: oel ikranit yamom krr a palulukan timvul

Possibly without the <iv> part of <imv> so just an <am>.
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