Na'vi-inspired dagger

El Jacko · February 20, 2010, 03:49:53 PM

The 'Legal' problem is British Law:

"It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him in a public place, any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except for a folding pocket-knife which has a cutting edge to its blade not exceeding 3 inches." [CJA 1988 section 139(1)]

'Good Reason' includes use in trade skills, part of National costume or Religious dress. Hence I'm stuck.

Swizaw Nguway · February 20, 2010, 04:02:45 PM

Just dont get caught

Kaltxì Palulukan! · February 20, 2010, 08:32:08 PM

Quote from: El Jacko on February 20, 2010, 03:49:53 PM
The 'Legal' problem is British Law:

"It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him in a public place, any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except for a folding pocket-knife which has a cutting edge to its blade not exceeding 3 inches." [CJA 1988 section 139(1)]

'Good Reason' includes use in trade skills, part of National costume or Religious dress. Hence I'm stuck.

"OR GOOD REASON!"

I lllllllove the Brits! (quite seriously) You guys are so damned polite! So civilized! So "proper and right about it." As far as I am concerned, any of you are welcome at my house any day of the week. Hmm... "good reason." I need to think on this a bit. I feel like Bon Scott (Problem Child) trying to conceive a decent alibi

Eyaye Tskxe · February 21, 2010, 03:22:39 AM

Heh, I went to England for the 2007 World Scout Jamboree. In America, a knife is one of our ten essentials. We were very amused by everyone's reactions when four boys all took out blades to help cut some plastic. They were pocketknives, which, as El Jacko said, are legal, but still, most people didn't expect it.

What if the blade was dulled? Is it still illegal then?

kxanì tsamsiyu · February 21, 2010, 05:53:41 AM

Quote from: Eyaye Tskxe on February 21, 2010, 03:22:39 AM
Heh, I went to England for the 2007 World Scout Jamboree. In America, a knife is one of our ten essentials. We were very amused by everyone's reactions when four boys all took out blades to help cut some plastic. They were pocketknives, which, as El Jacko said, are legal, but still, most people didn't expect it.

What if the blade was dulled? Is it still illegal then?

Yes even if the blade is dull it is still illegal. England is the Health and safety Crazy anything you do has something to do with health and safety.
It just gets annoying sometimes, when you want to do something but you can't because of Health and Safety.

Swizaw Nguway · February 21, 2010, 06:13:22 AM

Quote from: kxanì tsamsiyu on February 21, 2010, 05:53:41 AM
Quote from: Eyaye Tskxe on February 21, 2010, 03:22:39 AM
Heh, I went to England for the 2007 World Scout Jamboree. In America, a knife is one of our ten essentials. We were very amused by everyone's reactions when four boys all took out blades to help cut some plastic. They were pocketknives, which, as El Jacko said, are legal, but still, most people didn't expect it.

What if the blade was dulled? Is it still illegal then?
Yes even if the blade is dull it is still illegal. England is the Health and safety Crazy anything you do has something to do with health and safety.
It just gets annoying sometimes, when you want to do something but you can't because of Health and Safety.

Health and safety ruined my country >.<

El Jacko · February 21, 2010, 08:17:46 AM

Health and Safety is also a wonderful way to piss off my boss, hes paranoid about it.

Sänra · February 27, 2010, 12:57:41 AM

I'm currently experimenting with polymer clay, looking to replicate a Na'vi style dagger in that material. Perhaps a 'dagger' made out of that wouldn't be against the law in Britain as it would probably break before penetrating.

Of course, when I've started to craft test pieces I'll be able to let you know how strong it is. I am expecting it will only be good for costuming purposes.

Kaltxì Palulukan! · February 27, 2010, 01:45:16 AM

Quote from: Sänra on February 27, 2010, 12:57:41 AM
I'm currently experimenting with polymer clay, looking to replicate a Na'vi style dagger in that material. Perhaps a 'dagger' made out of that wouldn't be against the law in Britain as it would probably break before penetrating.

Of course, when I've started to craft test pieces I'll be able to let you know how strong it is. I am expecting it will only be good for costuming purposes.

If you can get this "spot on," consider making a cast of it and recreating it in a dense, high-durability silicone. You can paint/stain it as needed and it will be rubber. Laugh at any policeman who harasses you. (Just a thought)

Ikranä mokri · March 02, 2010, 03:52:39 AM

how sharp and useful is it ??

EDIT: these replica knives off the noble collection thing, are they able to be sharpened or are they totally for show cause i dont buy a knife unless there going to be useful and get ussed.

'Awve Tìkameie · March 02, 2010, 09:49:36 PM

It looks amazing. Fantastic job

Robert Nantangä Tirea · March 08, 2010, 01:33:19 PM

I'm trying to make Neytiri's dagger out of wood. It's not so bad I guess but I'm at a loss as to what materials to use for wrapping around the handle

I think I will just go with the "creative license" angle and make something with woven leather strands.

not quite sure where I am at on it atm, probably need to redo the paint job, just looks sloppy I know I can do better.

Ash · March 08, 2010, 01:51:42 PM

Hey, looking good! And the paintjob may not be spot on, but it surely does catch the feeling as conveyed by the top picture. (Especially in the third picture it fits the "dribbly" look very much, I think.)

For the handle - I'd tend to leather as well(easier to do and more comfortable grip), but the more details I see (like the shoulder strap of Jake's... (howdoyoucallit...corset??) - looks more woven to me now) I am getting the impression they are using plant fibres for a lot of things. So if you want to keep as close to the "original" as possible, I think I'd first wrap the handle with some kind of thick packing cord(or sisal or whatever) to get the underlying yellowish layer, and then make the upper layer of criss-crossing fibres from something like rattan-stripes (they are being used to make the seats of these coffee-house chairs) or whatever the local craft-shops has available like this.

Kaltxì Palulukan! · March 08, 2010, 07:32:59 PM

That actually looks like rattan, but good luck getting THAT fresh.

I would take that photo to a GOOD craft store and ask around. You could fake it up nicely with various widths of leather strap from Tandy leather store. I forget exactly what it is called, but it comes on a spool and looks almost exactly like that. You would want different thicknesses and colors of course. Oh yeah, and IMHO it looks like gold leaf and copper paint for the pommel ring.

Thanks for the update.

EDIT: LOL! Of course "now," I read the word rattan in the post above. Yes, I would have to concur. Cookie for you as well.

El Jacko · March 09, 2010, 03:39:19 PM

Well, I've been doing some research. As far as I can find out, British knife laws are only really applied to metal blades (in theory they cover wood too, but from quizzing a few police officers most wouldn't consider a wooden one a threat). Which leaves me OK to carve a wooden one, entirely at my own home (metal would need specialist tools, which I don't have).

Haven't got much free time for quite a while though, so it may be some time before I get a chance to get crackin.

Sänra · March 10, 2010, 09:12:29 PM

I spotted some flax thread in my local craft store that I am intending to use for my handle. It was in the same area of the shop as you might find spools of leather lacing. The colours they had were yellow, green and red. Something like that might also make a good handle cover (if you can get it).