Nuclear power

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I don't know if it is the right topic for it, but I believe in Nuclear Energy. Fusion of hydrogen's isotopes is ecological, safe and powerful.

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Quote from: Ezy Ryder on February 15, 2010, 06:31:21 AM
I don't know if it is the right topic for it, but I believe in Nuclear Energy. Fusion of hydrogen's isotopes is ecological, safe and powerful.

Nuclear power really isn't anything to do with solar power. There's positives and negatives to nuclear power though. The biggest down side is the residual waste that must be dealt with after it's used. Solar power requires no such waste, and it's essentially free since the sun is always there.
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Fusion Reactors only after-effects are few atoms of Deuterium, Tritium, few liters of Helium and (only for 16,6 secs) Neutrons. Do You even know how it works?

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Quote from: Ezy Ryder on February 15, 2010, 02:48:11 PM
Fusion Reactors only after-effects are few atoms of Deuterium, Tritium, few liters of Helium and (only for 16,6 secs) Neutrons. Do You even know how it works?

I think that he confused fusion with fission. Fusion of course is much cleaner than fission.
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Quote from: Ezy Ryder on February 15, 2010, 02:48:11 PM
Fusion Reactors only after-effects are few atoms of Deuterium, Tritium, few liters of Helium and (only for 16,6 secs) Neutrons. Do You even know how it works?

Lol. And I thought Tritium was an invented term for Spiderman 2...

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Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen that has 3 protons. It is used in glowing watch dials.

I am going to start a Nuclear fission/fusion thread and move this conversation there...

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Quote from: Nìwotxkrr Tìyawntsaheylu on February 15, 2010, 02:50:04 PM
Quote from: Ezy Ryder on February 15, 2010, 02:48:11 PM
Fusion Reactors only after-effects are few atoms of Deuterium, Tritium, few liters of Helium and (only for 16,6 secs) Neutrons. Do You even know how it works?

I think that he confused fusion with fission. Fusion of course is much cleaner than fission.

Fission is the splitting of atoms. In a reactor, the atoms in the nuclear fuel rods are split, generating heat and energy. Heat drives the steam turbines which generates the power.

Fusion is just the opposite. By combining atoms, you also generate energy that can be harnessed to generate electricity. Problem with fusion is that we haven't developed an effective method for containing the reaction.
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Actually we can contain it just fine, the real problem is that right now it takes more energy to keep it going then we can get from it.
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A transition to liquid fluoride thorium reactors would do wonders. They're a far cleaner and more efficient source of nuclear power, largely overshadowed by uranium-based solutions because LFTRs cannot produce weaponizable material for bombs and whatnot.

LFTR is proven technology and has existed for decades. All it needs to end the energy crisis is the proper infrastructure.

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Quote from: Txep Siyuyä on February 15, 2010, 04:12:03 PM
Tritium is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen that has 3 protons.
If it had 3 protons, it would be Lithium. It has 1 proton and 2 Neutrons. Isotope is a atom with the same number of protons (otherwise it is another atom) and unnatural number on Neutrons. For example: Deuterium, is also isotope of Hydrogen, but it has 1 neutron. Hydrogen has 1 Proton and zero neutrons... Fusion reactor, also get energy of fission. When You ionize Deuterium and Tritium, put them in a same-energy field, make the pressure higher and if You've got luck, there will start a reaction:
D(2)+T(3)->He(5)->He(4)+n->He(4)+p+electron's antyneutrino+ electron.
So there is also a fission. Beta- decay is producing energy.

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How do You think? Is 120kV enough for power supply for a Fusor or Accelerator? I'm already making a HV generator and I wonder if it is...

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I'm not sure I am following you here...

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This week I've projected a 120kVDC generator and I thought that maybe I could use it as a power supply for an accelerator or Fusor. I could also make a nine-step Marx generator, connect them and get 'bout 1MV.

Toruk Makto

Oh wow, ok. I was under the impression that it took a much higher static voltage. I guess I need to get some learn on here for this...

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Quote from: Txepsiyu on February 24, 2010, 07:31:58 PM
Oh wow, ok. I was under the impression that it took a much higher static voltage. I guess I need to get some learn on here for this...
I think fusors can be built with like 20-30kvish. I remember reading about them in popular science once.

Quote from: Ezy Ryder on February 24, 2010, 12:28:14 AM
This week I've projected a 120kVDC generator and I thought that maybe I could use it as a power supply for an accelerator or Fusor. I could also make a nine-step Marx generator, connect them and get 'bout 1MV.

Out of curiosity, how (are you getting a 120kVDC generator)?
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QuoteOut of curiosity, how (are you getting a 120kVDC generator)?

Connecting 1:1 transformer, to the Net (230V, 50Hz) than to 2 12x Voltage multipliers (MMC of 4 MKT capacitors, 400V, 68nF and 1N4007 diode), it changes AC 230V to pulsating  DC 3kV. One of them is power supply of one half of Bipolar Marx Generator (10 steps per half) and the second one is the power supply of the second half of Marx Generator. It changes two separate pulsating DC 3kV to 1 ulsating DC 120kV. 1mm spark gaps, homemade 50pF 16kV capacitors, two 2W 5% 1M2 MOF resistors per step and 5 of them to secure the power supply. If You'd want the schematic I can upload it tomorrow (I draw it on a A3 paper sheet). Total costs: 'bout 112zł.. Why?


EDIT: How big should be the distance between electrodes?

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Quote from: Sanmäkx on February 15, 2010, 07:37:21 PM
A transition to liquid fluoride thorium reactors would do wonders. They're a far cleaner and more efficient source of nuclear power, largely overshadowed by uranium-based solutions because LFTRs cannot produce weaponizable material for bombs and whatnot.

LFTR is proven technology and has existed for decades. All it needs to end the energy crisis is the proper infrastructure.

More information: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/aijbb/give_the_world_the_best_christmas_present_of_all/
Probably more because it's a new technology, you are dealing with a radioactive liquid requiring a totally new reactor type. most nuclear powers has more plutonium than they need. Guess Russia and the US have tons of it after reducing their arsenals.
But the idea sounds good, you still got safety issues with leaks, one would be water into the thorium that would generate steam polluted with radioactivity, but I liked the ability to dump the thorium into a non critical cooling chamber as a safety.

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The main advantage of fission over LFTR is solid fuel, makes the reaction simpler to house and control. The fact that Uranium produces plutonium as a by-product is, however, annoying. Nukes are generally not good.
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