Yes or no to oil production in Lofoten,Norway?

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Txantsan nìtxan! :D

But be prepared for the future - new gouverment, new try...

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Quote from: Tìtstewan on September 30, 2013, 07:06:31 PM
Txantsan nìtxan! :D

But be prepared for the future - new gouverment, new try...

New election will be in 2017. Let's see when that year is coming.

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Cheers and disappointment for Lofoten exposure

"The official news from the Norwegian newspapers are in the link below"

In partnership turns the four bourgeois parties state that the waters off Lofoten, Vesterålen and Senja not be assessed in the next parliamentary term. Photo: Anita Arntzen / Dagbladet.

The bourgeois postponement of impact assessment and cheer from the environmental movement and deep concern in the oil industry

Bellona President Frederic Hauge set the tone among the many happy environment votes Monday night.
- This is a great day, and a marked line away from the dirty oil politics Ola Borten Moe and Jens Stoltenberg has stood for. We are very, very happy today. We have won the battle of Lofoten with enough of a reprieve. Each time we expose this, the less likely it is that there is something off, says Frederic Hauge said.

- New fighting
In partnership turns the four bourgeois parties state that the waters off Lofoten, Vesterålen and Senja not be assessed in the next parliamentary term. Opening process around Jan Mayen is stopped and the civil laws that the government not to start petroleum operations in the ice, the Møre or in the Skagerrak.
- This is fantastic news. Nature and Youth has always said that they never get Lofoten, Vesterålen and Senja. When we won for the fifth time, we get enough proof that it is useless to fight, so all credit to the Liberal Party and Christian Democratic Party, says Nature and Youth Leader Nigel Lundberg NTB.

- Almost irresponsible
Managing Director Gro Brækken the Norwegian oil and gas points out that the Liberals and the Christian Democrats have achieved more than SV in his time did. The delay in Lofoten came during the proceedings, and was not part of the coalition agreement in advance.
Brækken are particularly disappointed that the Conservatives are helping to stop the knowledge acquisition Lofoten. She can not see anything in the agreement resembling a willingness to long-term industrial development or the development of Northern Norway.
- I think this is almost irresponsible from a party that has been occupied by industrial creation and long-term economic development. This is a democratic problem. Despite the fact that three-quarters of those who sit in Parliament has been campaigning to study the impact lets you reach minor parties Liberals and Christian Democrats run the rest of the parliament, said Brækken.

Environmental Press
Zero-leader Marius Holm is not surprised the protection of Lofoten, Vesterålen and Senja. He thinks blåblå minority government can be good for the climate, and seems to recognize the model from Oslo, where the Left achieved much on the environment before they went into the council.
- This shift power to the Parliament. We see that the SV has been difficult to overcome environmental issues in government despite a strong policy platform. The Liberals and Christian Democrats on rocker government may be under pressure in Parliament, says Holm.

Must prove
Conservation Association CEO Lars Haltbrekken are not as convinced that blåblå government will be more ambitious in the environmental field.
- Time will tell. Erna Solberg must be responsible for their election promises to give Norway a more ambitious climate policy. It is needed for climate report, issued last Friday. Norway has in recent years increased their emissions, while neighboring countries have reduced them, says Haltbrekken.
The future in our hands interprets environmental signals from the bourgeois in a positive direction, and notes that the Progress Party have agreed to strengthen climate agreement by 2012.
- It means that climate policy over the next four years, at least not worse than under the coalition. Now we have expectations that the Conservative Party and the Progress Party goes even further in a joint government statement says Arild Hermstad is the leader in the future in our hands.

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Sad news. The new gouvernment have removed the plans to avoid oil-activity in Lofoten and in the Arctic. It seems it might be that afterall. They have removed the plans for the next 4 years. In about 4 years, there will be a new gouvernment stepping in.

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Quote from: Rotobull cz on November 10, 2013, 04:59:29 PM
Ayfo leru skxawng.

Here's the reason why:

The State Secretary in the Ministry of Environment, said the organization who is fighting against oildrilling will lose support because the government sees it as a local organization. The reason they can not get support is that it is not gonna be anyway any impact-assessment over the next four years, so the need for the organization is no longer present. So we need to wait till the year 2017, because it will be a new election in the gouvernment.

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I just don't get it. We have now a new Prime Minister who have refused the plan to start digging after oil in North-Norway and in the Arctic. Our former Prime Minister had that plan.

But now, guess what? He is now a bigger favourite than our current Prime Minister. That's what gets me really confused. What is wrong with people? Anyways, it's too late now. If he want to get in the frontline, he needs to wait to the year 2017. There will be a new parliamental election in that time. Every 4 years, here in Norway we have a parliamental election. The political party who wins the election, will have the full responsibility to fund a budget for future plans for our country. There are 4 political parties who are leading the gouvernment now, and they are: Conservative Party, Progress Party, Christian Democratic Party and Liberal Party.

Now, when Russia have started to drill after oil in the Arctic, who knows if we get motivated to do the same?

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This is how an oil disaster will affect the Lofoten in Norway

An oil disaster in northern Norway may kill a million puffins, says marine biologist Per-Erik Schulze in Naturvernforbundet(Conservation Association).

- An oil disaster is not just numbers, says Per-Erik Schulze in Naturvernforbundet. Therefore, he has written op-ed "The oil slick in Lofoten in 2025, day by day."
Hundreds of thousands of dead birds, one fisheries collapse, polluted fjords and destroyed wildlife. Conservation Association's scenario for how an oil spill in Lofoten will look like, is not cheerful reading.
- The entire coast of Lofoten and northwards is a biological "hotspot". We are talking about huge fish populations, nesting and whale. The size of the environmental damage here would be totally unmanageable, says marine biologist Per-Erik Schulze in Naturvernforbundet
In connection with the fact that it is 25 years since the Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska, he laid out Tuesday an article describing a day to day scenario of a hypothetical oil spill in northern Norway.
- I based myself on the government acquisition of knowledge which came in 2012. There were presented the possible consequences of a possible blowout on an oil rig or an accident involving an oil tanker, says Schulze.
- But these reports consist of dry numbers. I am among those who have been cleaning up after oil accidents in Norway, and there are so many aspects of such a disaster that can not be described with numbers. What I have tried to do here is to explain to the communities along the coast of northern Norway how it will be experienced by a large oil spill, he continued
- Black Templates not
- How would you summarize the consequences?
- The knowledge acquisition shows is that oil will turn into the shore and take great valuable natural areas, harbors and fjords. The people along the coast you will find that the situation will become very complex.
While the impact seems to be huge, Schulze believes that he is not black paint.
- This is not the worst scenario. I have taken a discharge that lasts for 40-50 days after a blowout from a rig. Some would say it's "worst case", but I do not agree with it. I know that the knowledge acquisition is anticipated that one can stop that kind of emission of a few days, but it is not so easy.
- We know that there will be accidents
- How likely is it that something like that happens?
- Accidents often happen when you least expect it, or at least want it. But one opens for business there will be some risk.
According to Schulze, it is estimated that there will be a larger or smaller exhaust from a rig every six years in the area between the UK and Norway.
- It is based on statistics on how often these things happen around the world. We know that accidents will happen, the question is just how big the accident will be.
The oil spill response in Norway is not designed for a major accident, says Schulze.
- Authorities say they at best will be able to take up 40 percent of the oil after such accident as I outlined. The coastal population must know that the rest risks and harbor along the coast.

- Scare Propaganda
Now is not Schulze scenario relevant for another four years. In a compromise after the election, the Liberals and the Christian Democrats across that Lofoten and Vesterålen shall be protected throughout this parliamentary term.
But what happens after that, nobody knows. But anyway mean trade " Norwegian oil and gas " that Naturvernforbundet exaggerating greatly .
- This is junk scare tactics . The scenario is not based on realistic terms, and it is disappointing that Naturvernforbundet not put up better in Norwegian security preparedness and how it is managed , says head of information for environmental Pia Martine Wold in " Norwegian oil and gas ."
Wold believes Schulze underestimate oil preparedness quite powerful .
- A big error scenario is the fallacy that the Norwegian oil and gas industry is not prepared . On the contrary , we are thoroughly trained and prepared to handle the most demanding emissions , she said.
- All operators on the NCS has trained plans to deal with such situations , the requirement of a response time between a few hours and up to a few days . The time aspect and capacity that is assumed in the scenario is therefore incorrect . On the open sea , our sector overcapacity of over 20 percent when it comes to the amount of equipment .
Norwegian oil and gas mean Naturvernforbundet mixes the cards.
- Schulze estimates that there will be a larger or smaller exhaust from a rig every six years in the area between the UK and Norway. One can do a lot of things with statistics. It blends Schultze into small and ecologically insignificant emissions and things go wrong went. When it comes to spills of a certain size, which is here the question, we have the Norwegian continental shelf throughout history had only two that have been greater than 1,000 cubic meters. No spills on the Norwegian continental shelf has led to proven environmental impacts – despite extensive investigations after the fact, says Wold

1 year: The Norwegian fishing industry is struggling most with market credibility abroad even if all fish are now fully edible, and there are fish in the sea. The sale of Norwegian seafood abroad is less than half of before the accident and does not seem to pick up again. Several Chinese, German and American storinnkjøpere has completed its purchase agreements.
PER-ERIK SCHULZE In Naturvernforbundet

- That Schultze on one hand says he builds his scenario on Knowledge-gathering state did, and the other side that he does not believe the conclusions in the same report, says it something about the seriousness of this. Friends of the Earth relate to the previous century's oil spill, when talking about a scenario over 10 years in the future, says Pia Martine Wold.

Tsanten Eywa 'eveng

Written by the Norwegian marine biologist Per-Erik Schulze in Naturvernforbundet(Conservation Association)

A warned catastrophe: The oil slick in Lofoten in Norway 2025 day-by-day.

Today it is 25 years since the Exxon Valdez. Experience shows long-term effects of the oil slick, in addition to the acute injuries. This will affect how we think about oil drilling in the North. After the Exxon Valdez, the world has also seen several major oil disasters, most recently in the Gulf of Mexico. In Norway, the cargo ships Full City and Godafoss run aground and shown that even small oil spills are difficult to handle.
Based on experience, new knowledge, and reports on the environmental risks associated with the petroleum industry and oil spill presents Naturvernforbundet here a day-by-day scenario for a hypothetical oil spill in northern Norway. At the bottom of the page you will find links to more information about lessons learned from the Exxon Valdez. Velbekomme, and let it not happen again!

Day 1, April 2025
An oil rig in Røstbanken has received a sharp kicks. Pressure in the reservoir has destroyed parts of the equipment, there is a gas alarm. The oil company tells the media that the rig is about to be evacuated, the production closed and there are no serious injuries. Coast Guard is on the way, and Nofo, the oil industry's oil contingency has already vessels in the area.

Day 2: Government's press conference. There is considerable confusion about the situation. From the public in small boats and fishermen are reports of an oil film on the water throughout the area towards Lofotodden and around seabird colonies on Værøy and Voice . Oil and environment ministers have canceled all appointments the next day to deal with the situation . The prime minister has "full confidence that safety is maintained and the responsible authorities are now making every effort to gain control of the serious situation . " Oil rig is now without a crew on board and several remote systems are inoperative. The minister talks about full oil emergency mobilization. It is already laid out booms around the rig but little sign of oil. Oil Collector Ship is in place . Environmental organizations asking about the oil on the water toward Værøy and Rost may come from a subsea blowout. An environmental activist being ejected from the press conference after standing and waving an oil contaminated bird was picked up by the sea at Rost already day 1 We are working intensively to scout for oil slick from airplanes . The weather is good, but low pressure and powerful winds are expected into .
Day 3 : It blows up the air . NCA reports the work to soak up partly large oil slicks at sea and near shore . Petroleum Operating Scenarios are created , but it is uncertain whether the oil will hit the country . IUA – one , the inter-municipal pollution emergency action units are mobilized along the coast of Nordland and Troms. Lens Save and crew mobilized. The public is urged to stay away from areas with visible oil spills , and let be calling NCA switchboard capacity is blown .
Day 4 Morning News: The oil company holds a press conference . It has been used ROV around the drill site , and clear that it concerns a subsea blowout not unlike the Gulf of Mexico in 2010. There is uncertainty about how much oil runs out. It's certainly about the largest oil spill in Norway in recent times. We work from the oil company to implement an operation to stop the blowout , but this will take several days or weeks to put in place .
The night wind and waves have swept large amounts of oil on land in exposed bays and coves on Voice and outside of the Moskenesøya . Viltnemdene are out and shoot the oil -damaged birds they find on land , in violation of the Environment Directorate directions that they should be collected before euthanasia . The crews in the field looks so much oil contaminated bird that collection is considered as totally unrealistic.
Civil Defence and NCA beach cleaning team is mobilized , but it is still uncertain where they should be inserted . The specially trained force is a total of 150 men . They can both suck up the oil from the sea in the bays and remove oil on land to prevent it taken by the tide and brought back to sea. Environment Directorate has asked that priority be given around the bird cliffs where large numbers of birds are collected and claims to have received the equipment in some bays.
Day 4 Dinner time : Environment Directorate has been birdwatchers out by helicopter over beaches and nesting . There are reports of a lot of oil , and the head of the directorate states that this is a huge environmental disaster. A number of large flakes are observed both inside and outside of Lofoten and runs fast with the coastal north and the country . The flakes moves above and below the water surface and the picture is very unclear . NCA and Nofo priority now is to try and capture the most close to the spill site , and to close off bays and inlets to harbors and vulnerable habitats .
Day 5 : Disaster is a fact and rolls in all media. It is believed to be a complete blowout that could potentially last for weeks. Heavy brown black waves rolling in oil on all exposed places in Lofoten and Vesterålen. More oil spill equipment is on track action centers , all local booms are already posted . There are problems with logistics in field action areas. All accommodation capacity is overloaded and Civil Defence set up tents for their people . Municipalities complain of confusion about who can get booms and that there are large amounts of unused booms in the central repository . A Lofoten mayor is outraged : " I spend more time trying to find out who is responsible action management than on fighting the oil spill ."
Photos of oil contaminated puffins with the characteristic papegøyenebbene go worldwide . Ports of Lofoten and Værøy and Voice dotted oiled birds that are pressed into the fjord of oil and weather. Journalists from a number of countries are in place . Professionals dare not estimate how many thousands of birds that are already dead . There are estimated to be a few million puffins, as well as many other species , the areas which are now endangered . In the seabird colonies on the Voice tells ornithologists about horror scenes where over half of the birds they see with binoculars sitting and press inaccessible places up in the hills with clear oil spots on the plumage . Viltnemdene locally no longer has the capacity to take away avskytningen the injured bird. Several of the men have already been in fields around the clock for three days , bleeding nosebleeds and vomiting . They are strongly influenced by the experiences and needs rest .
Day 7 : A now near continuous oil slick spreads upwards along the coast and spill to every nook and cranny in the flow -prone areas . Local oil spill response crews are in full swing close to all coastal towns , blocking the strait and narrow fjord system so the oil does not get spread in there, but there is a lack of equipment.
From Central Europe are reports that large loads of cod and salmon received this week disposed to show consumers that it is not sold contaminated fish. Fisker teams now involved in assisting with the transportation of oil spill response crews and equipment into the affected areas. All commercial fishing and Fiskesalg in Nordland and Troms assessed stopped by Fisheries and Agriculture.
Day 8 : The Prime Minister is in place in Svolvær . And declared that all Coast Guard vessels and oil spill response vessels in the Nordic countries are in place or on the way . Specially designed ships to take up oil at sea are heading north from Spain and across the Atlantic from Canada and the United States . The vessels have experience from past disasters. Russia has offered the assistance of suitable vessels in its northern fleet and nuclear-powered icebreaker fleet , but the Norwegian government is awaiting the situation . Oil Minister is now leading a crisis team to stop the blowout , and try to find experts out there who can help. It is expected that the oil that has leaked will reach Tromsø and Finnmark coast in full if not many days , and it's taken full alert there.
International environmental groups have gone out with a common requirement that all oil activity of Møre and north shut down temporarily. The main argument is that all the oil vessels and oil waste company now needed to deal with the oil spill . There is a great lack of other suitable vessel, and the capacity for storage of recovered oily water in the region is already blown . The government has rejected the proposal and instead requested a tanker that buffer pool .
Day 9 : Environment Directorate has considered urgent application by the NCA and the oil company about the use of chemicals to dissolve the oil slick , but has today rejected the application . Marine research was very negative because it is now in this area are large amounts of cod eggs high in the water that could be very adversely affected by chemical treatment of plumes of oil . In addition, one can not risk that oil after dispersion will sink down and lie on top of the large conserved coral reefs in the area. Bellona and Naturvernforbundet looking boat in the spill area says the basis of observations of water samples from different depths suspect someone already having tested a large amount of unknown chemicals to dissolve the oil. The suspicion is directed to supply the vessels that are able to bet around the rig site , and an American oil chemical supplier .
Day 12 : Most harbors , beaches and pier facilities in Lofoten and Vesterålen is full of major and minor oil slick that spill to vessels and equipment. Bad weather and power reduces the local oil link the effect to near zero. The oil flows both within and outside the booms.
Day 14 : The owners of a total of several hundred breeding cages in Nordland , Troms and Finnmark trying to move plants, but already coming oil after them rapidly and accumulate in quiet coves which are the mobile facilities' places of refuge . The first plants obtained oil has started emergency slaughter by order of the FSA .
Scientists fear oil spill could be disastrous for a number of seabird populations . They recall that it should only be a small spot of oil on the plumage of feathers that the heat insulating capacity is considerably reduced so that the bird freezing to death by cold water from entering. They remind especially that dark death rates are large , as much dead bird disappears at sea or being taken by scavengers without ever being found and recorded. Several places along the coast there are reports now about eagles and fox sisters around the shoreline , obviously sick, poisoned by oil contaminated prey.
Day 15 : The oil has gone out from the shore at the South Island at a speed of 2 kilometers per hour. Finnmark cross your fingers and hold your breath . Marine scientist regret : It is natural, – the coastal current turns north here , but come back NE of the South Island near Hammerfest . South along the coast , it is now difficult to find birds that are not oily .
The massive popular mobilization and virtually emergency in coastal communities , where everyone contributes what they can to stop or clean up oil, is about to go into resignation and depression. It is difficult to see how it works. Even the Prime Minister has been on TV and expressed great frustration that the blowout is not yet stopped , and how powerless we are . The churches are open around the clock in several towns. People need a focal point.
The government promises that coastal communities should have the support they need to get back on their feet , but the priority date must be to stop the spill and limit the damage as possible .
Day 70: The blowout was stopped after 5 weeks and several unsuccessful attempts, and oil hit almost every vulnerable nature of locality as far north as Hjelmsøy in Finnmark. Prohibition on the sale of fish is lifted today . The ban on the sale of shellfish still apply. The fishermen's organizations have asked the fishermen to wait until it is cleared with the government on the special compensation for whaling still continuing. You want a longer fishing moratorium until it is clear that there are some new flakes to the coast . Otherwise, it could harm the market's perception of how clean the Norwegian fish are.
Day 80: Duck and auks which until now have survived the oil disaster is now entering a new katastrofetid . Now start moulting , ie moulting means that birds can not rise from sea level of 3-7 weeks. Auks located offshore and is prone to minor oil slick and thin oil film which still operates in this area . Ducks and geese congregate in concentrated moulting flocks in shallow waters along the coast. Environment Directorate notes that there is no area in western Finnmark suitable for the year and calls for volunteers nedskytning of injured and emaciated birds. Directorate will implement a pilot with the relocation of the rarest species , which has never been done in this country før.Naturvernforbundet in Østfold his project for the rehabilitation of injured wild oil in place for the job with expert teams, veterinarians and a container full of equipment. They began the laborious job of capturing and occupancy of rare bird species , one and one individual from one of the few fjords that is least loaded of oil . It is unclear where and when the birds can be released again .
1 year : Civil Defence volunteers and crew in the oil spill since the accident efforts to remove oil spill near towns and heavily used recreation and tourist places. Technical facilities at fish landing and ports are functional again . Cleanup crews , of which the majority of WWF's beach clean- groups , have received no help of storms in winter on the vulnerable spots along the coast, but the shielded areas are still very soiled . In sheltered bays at the head of fjords see the seemingly good from a distance , but if one walks on the beach as you step through and get oil on the boots. Many of these will never be manually cleared, here you have to wait until nature has done the job in a few decades .
NCA , together with the Environment Directorate prepared an emergency plan for dealing with small oil slick which still operates in marine areas for the coming spring. These should be mocked and collected continuously.
Directorate has estimated these losses of seabirds in the first year :
- puffin 800,000
eider – 50000
- King Eider uncertain , probably 10,000
- Steller 5000 (including those who died of plumes of oil that drifted over to the Russian zone)
- guillemots 20,000
- shags and cormorants 7-8000
It is found 200 dead eagles and a handful of golden eagles .
The Directorate stated NO pup production of seals from Nordland and Finnmark last year when the areas where seals give birth was destroyed by the oil spill .
The same was true of birds residing in the beachfront in affected bays, not because nest sites was necessarily destroyed , but because it was not living life to eat on the beach.
No one knows what happened to whales and killer whales. Several oil spill sperm whale drifted ashore on Andoy in the summer but the cause of death is unclear. It is observed oil contaminated whales from planes and whale watching boats.
Aquaculture industry lawyers preparing insurance claims for several billion partly loss of equipment , production downtime and cleaning work.
Clean-up costs for coastal work , municipal authorities and private facilities as fish landing fast approaching ten billion. The government has guaranteed all over the state budget .
Norwegian authorities are considering how they legally should require reimbursement for both these cleanup costs , and unemployment benefits for thousands of workers in coastal fisheries , processing and aquaculture .
IMR can not yet say much about how the spill affected the fish stocks. It is highly probable that large quantities of fish eggs and fry that was high in the water simultaneously with the main discharge , have been affected.
The Norwegian fishing industry is struggling most with market credibility abroad even if all fish are now fully edible , and there are fish in the sea. The sale of Norwegian seafood abroad is less than half of before the accident and does not seem to pick up again . Several Chinese , German and American large buyers has completed its purchase agreements .

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Oil-drilling in Northern Norway and especially Lofoten is officially no-go for impact assessment. The majority have voted no to oil drilling.

Let's see if we can keep it like this the upcoming years. In 2017, it is a new parliamentary election.
There has been some discussions to impact study Barents Sea, but that has to be inside Norwegian maritime borders or we have to discuss that with Russia.


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Been a while since i have posted here because haven't had more news until now. This just happened 1-2 months ago.

Here are the news. The gouvernment of Norway have now came to a decision. They have now decided to impact assesment Lofoten and Vesterålen for oil-drilling. This has been one of our big topics this year here in the county i live in, which includes Lofoten. It is municipal- and county election to choose a political party in our county and municipality. Impact assesment might actually be good because it will be extra safety and caution. If something happens out there during oil-drilling, rescue team will be sent here from my homecity because it will be placed a rescue emergency base here.

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We have had municipal political election here in my city. It will now be a changed rule of our city. Labour Party is taking the position as mayor. Different parties now in the city council. The Conservative Party is now out of the city council.

We have also a newbie political party called Green Party, a political environment party. They are most likely against oil drilling and this is the first time they have joined the city council and they are very new in the Parliament of Norway. They had only 0.5% of votes between 1991 and 2009 and from this year they have got 4.2% and have gone up highest than any political party in Norway with an increase from last election up 3.4%, where other parties:

Centre Party: +1.8%
Labour Party: +1.3%
Red Party: +0.5%
Socialist Left Party: +0.2%

Other have gone down.
Christian Democratic Party: -0.1%
Left Party: -0.7%
Progress Party: -1.7%
Conservative Party: -4.7%

Conservative Party have current prime minister of Norway and Progress Party has current finance minister of Norway.

From my city the election looks like this, of how much they have gained and lost votes from last election:

Conservative Party: 33.8%(+10 6%)
Red Party: 10.4%(+4%)
Green Party: 2.9%(+2.1%)
Centre Party: 3.3%(+0.4%)

Left Party: 3.2%(-0.1%)
Socialist Left Party: 3.8%(-0.2%)
Christian Democratic Party: 2.6%(-0.6%)
Labour Party: 30.2%(-3.7%)
Progress Party: 9.5%(-12.7%)

So oil drilling in Lofoten will likely happen. Conservative Party is still the largest Party in our city but they couldn't get in the city council because other parties went over to the red-green side and not on the blue-blue side. It depends on who has m8st mandates. The side who has most mandates get in to the city council.