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Offline Ricardo

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More realistic colors for Avatar
« on: October 13, 2012, 11:01:49 am »
I early noticed that most, I think all, scenes of Avatar have a colorizing layer.
With Photoshop I found an easy way to "remove" the layer and give the pictures a more realistic color back.
I like to view under the layer and want to share some of the pics to get your opinion.
It is easy to understand that much of the magic in Avatar is produced by those layers which are completely normal for a movie of our time.
The pics don't have the best quality because I used a bluray rip I have permanently on my harddrive for such projects.
If you like it I may take screenshots from the better original disc and repeat my experiment.

On the left you'll see the original, on the right the changed picture. I've choosen this way for better comparisation.


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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 02:32:52 pm »
Wow, that is very interesting! It be really good, when is possible, to render the movie without this colorizing layer.

Can you say, wich playe do you used for the screenshot?
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 02:37:05 pm »
Really interesting experiment! I just can't decide which part of picture looks better. At some of them original looks better, while on others is better "repaired" part. Thanks for sharing
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 02:53:50 pm »
Irayo! :)
It would be interesting to see all movie with a natural colors.
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 03:28:49 pm »
 If one doesn't count the night time luminescence of the forest, or the floating mountains, most of what was in the movie bears a close resemblance to the way Samoa looked when I lived there. As far as bio-luminescence goes, have you ever been on a sail boat in the South Pacific at night? The boats wake lights up. The view from the trampoline on a Hobie Cat is great. Dive in the water, and it glows behind you.
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Irayo! :)
It would be interesting to see all movie with a natural colors.
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 06:17:20 pm »
Wow, that is very interesting! It be really good, when is possible, to render the movie without this colorizing layer.

Might be possible, but only in a difficult way because there would be every single scene, every shot to be edited manually or - even harder - every single frame.

Can you say, wich playe do you used for the screenshot?

I took the screenshots some time ago and hat a programm which made them automatically after a preset time. So there were 2 extracted screenshots/second or so.
But you can use VLC player and the shanpshot function.

Really interesting experiment! I just can't decide which part of picture looks better. At some of them original looks better, while on others is better "repaired" part. Thanks for sharing

Yes, it's really hard to decice sometimes.

Irayo! :)
It would be interesting to see all movie with a natural colors.

For one time, yes, indeed!

have you ever been on a sail boat in the South Pacific at night? The boats wake lights up. The view from the trampoline on a Hobie Cat is great. Dive in the water, and it glows behind you.

Sounds like a experience one has to do.  :D

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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2012, 09:15:15 am »
Ma Ricardo

Do you can try to delete at the following 2 screenshot the colorizing layer? I have take 2 screens, becaus I'm not sure wich of them are better...

[img]http://s1.directupload.net/images/121015/rcrz9st6.jpg[/img]
[img]http://s1.directupload.net/images/121015/dztwttul.jpg[/img]
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2012, 06:20:29 pm »
I tried.
I could do only a little because Iknimaya has no big color effects.


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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2012, 11:41:43 pm »
Irayo!

As I had feared, there are points in the film, where can not do much.

Do you can tell me, where are the option in Photoshop to delete the colorizing layer? :-\

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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2012, 11:02:32 am »
It depends from what kind of scene you have.
For the inside scenes like Hell's Gate the trio of Autocorrections can be enough because they have been made in real sets.
I only know the German names. "Auto-Kontras", "Auto-Farbe", "Auto-Farbton", you'll find them in "Bild" (third after Datei/File and Bearbeiten/Edit).
Sometimes they'll work for outside scenes, too.
But they're nearly useless during night time. Then you have to use the correction-filters manually and you have to find out which option gives you the best results.

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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 11:32:25 am »
It depends from what kind of scene you have.
For the inside scenes like Hell's Gate the trio of Autocorrections can be enough because they have been made in real sets.
I only know the German names. "Auto-Kontras", "Auto-Farbe", "Auto-Farbton", you'll find them in "Bild" (third after Datei/File and Bearbeiten/Edit).
Sometimes they'll work for outside scenes, too.
But they're nearly useless during night time. Then you have to use the correction-filters manually and you have to find out which option gives you the best results.
Irayo!
I will test this ;)
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 11:57:03 pm »
So I tested the same: ;)


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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2012, 04:51:45 am »
Really I feel like I see these picture by different eyes. "Cleaned up" version of movie would be interesting to see....
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2012, 10:50:44 am »
I agree. Whole new perspective on the famous movie. :)
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2012, 04:35:54 pm »
I agree. Whole new perspective on the famous movie. :)
I'm not sure, but I think I get it:

Update:
The movie part is filtered. Now the test:
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2012, 09:49:04 am »
There is an another screenshot. :)
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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2012, 11:18:55 am »
Very nice, but can you really use one filter for the whole movie?
My experiences say that you have to do every clip individual, but I don't know. ;)

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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2012, 11:29:40 am »
Very nice, but can you really use one filter for the whole movie?
My experiences say that you have to do every clip individual, but I don't know. ;)
It is possible, but it needs a lots of time. :o
I have to watch every clip to look, if the changes have a positive effect.
(Maybe when I have holiday, I can modify the movie ;) Than I have a little problem: How can enjoy it the aysmukan sì aysmuke? :-\)

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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2012, 12:55:08 pm »
You could share the Premiere project file. Everyone with a bluray copy might have the possibility to watch the m2ts with overlayed effects.
I only don't know if that will work.

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Re: More realistic colors for Avatar
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2012, 01:04:02 pm »
You know, that the folder make a lots of GBs... :o :-X
Edit: Fail. The filter aka project file has indeed only a few MB... - fixing my OLD english...
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