Dreamwalker's dilema {comments}

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Niwantaw

it was all right ii just had a random urge to post that
Only mostly AWOL.

Duma Vadamee {Aungia Tsawkeyä}

lol it was funny

your story was good as well, but do you think i should make it a trilogy?

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ShadowMainZERO

This has to be one of the worst things I have ever read. Aside from the extraordinarily high amount of grammar failures the characters are just awful. The hole story seams like a wish fulfillment and the main character seems like a Marty Stu and the fact that this seems like a Self Insert Fic doesn't help. Even worse: I have to read it. You might see why in a while.

By the way, this is a fanfiction or fanfic. Not a book. A book is a published piece of literature. A fanfic is a story based on a pre-existing fandom. There is a reason this section is called Fanfiction.

Also, why am I getting The Gatekeeper vibes from this?


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Duma Vadamee {Aungia Tsawkeyä}

QuoteThis has to be one of the worst things I have ever read.

thats kinda harsh dont you think? I put a lot of work into it. Now i feal like im being put down. thanks a lot. now all my work is blown to bits thanks to you.
and my mother thought i was a good writer too...

QuoteAside from the extraordinarily high amount of grammar failures the characters are just awful.

How are they awful?

Quotewhy am I getting The Gatekeeper vibes from this?

dont know and dont say i copied you. i hade this idea back in Jan. and you didn't start sending me the story untill a couple weeks ago.

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ShadowMainZERO

Quote from: Duma Vadamee {Aungia Tsawkeyä} on May 18, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
QuoteThis has to be one of the worst things I have ever read.

thats kinda harsh dont you think?

No it isn't. I could have been a lot meaner.

QuoteI put a lot of work into it. Now i feal like im being put down. thanks a lot. now all my work is blown to bits thanks to you.

Get over it. There will always be someone who doesn't like your work.

Quoteand my mother thought i was a good writer too...

That's your mom. They are supposed to support their children.

Quote
QuoteAside from the extraordinarily high amount of grammar failures the characters are just awful.

How are they awful?

Read on.

Quote
Quotewhy am I getting The Gatekeeper vibes from this?

dont know and dont say i copied you. i hade this idea back in Jan. and you didn't start sending me the story untill a couple weeks ago.

I had the idea for The Gatekeeper several years ago but whatever. Even if you did copy it I couldn't do anything.


Come join the adventure in Strange Lands: A Pandoran RP!

The ultimate power is found in the incorruptible light hidden deep in the darkness. You must delve into the darkest part of your heart and find that light. Once you do, never let go of it. Remember: Your heart is the greatest weapon of all.

Duma Vadamee {Aungia Tsawkeyä}

QuoteI put a lot of work into it. Now i feal like im being put down. thanks a lot. now all my work is blown to bits thanks to you.

Get over it. There will always be someone who doesn't like your work.


true...

Quoteand my mother thought i was a good writer too...

That's your mom. They are supposed to support their children.


My friends liked it to, and they never support me in major things like this.


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rslayer9 (Eyktan TxurŽitan)

Quote from: ShadowMainZERO on May 18, 2010, 02:14:12 PM
Quote from: Duma Vadamee {Aungia Tsawkeyä} on May 18, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
QuoteThis has to be one of the worst things I have ever read.

thats kinda harsh dont you think?

No it isn't. I could have been a lot meaner.

QuoteI put a lot of work into it. Now i feal like im being put down. thanks a lot. now all my work is blown to bits thanks to you.

Get over it. There will always be someone who doesn't like your work.

Quoteand my mother thought i was a good writer too...

That's your mom. They are supposed to support their children.

Quote
QuoteAside from the extraordinarily high amount of grammar failures the characters are just awful.

How are they awful?

Read on.

Quote
Quotewhy am I getting The Gatekeeper vibes from this?

dont know and dont say i copied you. i hade this idea back in Jan. and you didn't start sending me the story untill a couple weeks ago.

I had the idea for The Gatekeeper several years ago but whatever. Even if you did copy it I couldn't do anything.

Why don't you get the f*** off this thread if you hate it so much, some people actually enjoy it. And who the hell are you to criticize anyone with an imagination because clearly you don't have one. Do me a favor and stay out of this thread.

Niwantaw

i can see why he's saying these things but...
Only mostly AWOL.

rslayer9 (Eyktan TxurŽitan)

Quote from: Tawtute akawng on May 18, 2010, 04:39:08 PM
i can see why he's saying these things but...

but nothing, if he really doesn't like this book and has no suggestions on how to make it better then he should leave

ShadowMainZERO

Quote from: rslayer9 (Eyktan TxurŽitan) on May 18, 2010, 04:38:42 PM
Quote from: ShadowMainZERO on May 18, 2010, 02:14:12 PM
Quote from: Duma Vadamee {Aungia Tsawkeyä} on May 18, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
QuoteThis has to be one of the worst things I have ever read.

thats kinda harsh dont you think?

No it isn't. I could have been a lot meaner.

QuoteI put a lot of work into it. Now i feal like im being put down. thanks a lot. now all my work is blown to bits thanks to you.

Get over it. There will always be someone who doesn't like your work.

Quoteand my mother thought i was a good writer too...

That's your mom. They are supposed to support their children.

Quote
QuoteAside from the extraordinarily high amount of grammar failures the characters are just awful.

How are they awful?

Read on.

Quote
Quotewhy am I getting The Gatekeeper vibes from this?

dont know and dont say i copied you. i hade this idea back in Jan. and you didn't start sending me the story untill a couple weeks ago.

I had the idea for The Gatekeeper several years ago but whatever. Even if you did copy it I couldn't do anything.

Why don't you get the f*** off this thread if you hate it so much, some people actually enjoy it. And who the hell are you to criticize anyone with an imagination because clearly you don't have one. Do me a favor and stay out of this thread.

Coming to the defense of your friend. How noble. Seriously though, just because a person doesn't like the work of someone else doesn't mean you halve to flame them. If you shelter Duma and only give him praise then when he is told that he sucks by anyone outside of his bubble will either destroy him or make him like this guy and think they are jealous or something.

As evidence I refer you to his response to my first post. He was saddened because I criticized his work. I put a lot of work into my fanfic and everything else I do but if someone criticizes it I accept that, ask them what they didn't like, then try to improve it.

As for who I am to criticize his work, I'm just a voice of reason. Just put chapter one of his story into Word 07 then hit "Check Spelling and Grammar". If you don't want to do that then check the sporking that SW9 and TI did. They count them for you. Then there is that hole, "character speach", thing. See my first post for the rest of my complaints.

As for the "lack of imagination" thing, don't make me laugh. The fanfic I mentioned, The Gatekeeper, I have shown it to many, many, people and have gotten nothing but praise. Several of those people have criticized me over several other things and a mojority would have tolf me if they hated it or not. It takes place in a Sci-Fi/High Fantasy setting, btw.

Quote from: rslayer9 (Eyktan TxurŽitan) on May 18, 2010, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: Tawtute akawng on May 18, 2010, 04:39:08 PM
i can see why he's saying these things but...

but nothing, if he really doesn't like this book and has no suggestions on how to make it better then he should leave

I did. Just to make things even clearer:

What Duma Should do to make his Story Better:

Remake every original character.
IMPROVE GRAMMAR.
Improve writing style
Improve the plot
Basically, redo the whole thing.

Purple Prose


Come join the adventure in Strange Lands: A Pandoran RP!

The ultimate power is found in the incorruptible light hidden deep in the darkness. You must delve into the darkest part of your heart and find that light. Once you do, never let go of it. Remember: Your heart is the greatest weapon of all.

Duma Vadamee {Aungia Tsawkeyä}

the only thing to say: the book does get better. plot does get faster but not that much (30 CH. in all), characters improve, no marty sue (there wasn't any to begin with in my outlook Ash wasnt god-like or always getting the good stuff. and it will not be self-centered!), there will be purple prose (have you ever read the twilight saga?)

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ShadowMainZERO

Quote from: Duma Vadamee {Aungia Tsawkeyä} on May 19, 2010, 12:00:24 PM
the only thing to say: the book does get better. plot does get faster but not that much (30 CH. in all), characters improve, no marty sue (there wasn't any to begin with in my outlook Ash wasnt god-like or always getting the good stuff. and it will not be self-centered!), there will be purple prose (have you ever read the twilight saga?)

First of all, no character is a Mary Sue/Marty Stu in the eyes of their author (unless s/he REALLY knows their stuff). Being God-like and always getting the good stuff isn't the only thing that makes a Sue. They are the tell-tale signs but not the only ones. I've spent a good year or two on the TV Tropes wiki. The time I wasted spent there has allowed to pick apart stories and let me see nearly everything (just ask Tawtute Akawng). Trust me, even though what defines a Mary Sue differs from group to group if anyone could figure it out it would be a Troper.

Thirty chapters is a normal book size (fanfics are usually much smaller) and is normal for most writers (except Christopher Paolini. Brisinger is 58 story chapters long [61 in total]).

Also, my wired-for-this-brain was just foreseeing a Marty Stu. I could be wrong. I won't really know until we get to Pandora.

Also, IT'S A FANFICTION; NOT A BOOK.


Come join the adventure in Strange Lands: A Pandoran RP!

The ultimate power is found in the incorruptible light hidden deep in the darkness. You must delve into the darkest part of your heart and find that light. Once you do, never let go of it. Remember: Your heart is the greatest weapon of all.

Tìrey Tsmukan

Kaltxì frapo.

I just lit upon this project. I haven't had time to read all of the chapters, (I'm on five) but as of so far I think it is Sìltsana nìtxan. There are many things that need some work, (grammar mostly) but so far it's coming along quite nicely.

I've been writing my own novel for the past year or so, (note: it's not based on Avatar or anything) and I'm one hundred and twenty six pages into the first novel. So I know what it's like to write.
You said a while back that writing has become your new passion. I totally agree, when I first began to write, I did it because people thought I was good. But then it all changed. And now almost every waking moment for me is putting thoughts into my book.

Where the story is concerned in your fan-fic, there are things that seem to move very slow, while suddenly something happens that moves incredibly fast. It's hard to explain or show a place where this happens, as it can happen over the span of several paragraphs, but see if you can tweak it a little to minimize this.
Another thing that you didn't do much but I would still recommend changing. Character switching, when you do it. Try not to stay in the same narrative fashion, E.g when you switched between Ash and Darik, it was slightly confusing as you were still using I. when you make a character switch, make sure to make it clear that you've done that, and make sure to make something different about the narrative style.
And lastly, grammar grammar grammar! I would definitely recommend getting Microsoft word, (or something similar) as there are many mistakes, and in making those mistakes the reader is drawn away from the story. Keep an eye on what you're writing, get an editor, and practice grammar, and you'll be set.
(oh, one last thing, if you're going to use one world, try to stay in that one world. for instance, I haven't reached the part where Ash has done anything with those Halo swords, but that was very distracting to me. Try to keep with the Avatarness eh?)

Now I'm going to go into this flame war that has started. though I hope to stay neutral.

First off, Shadow: it's his first attempt at writing anything major, give him some slack. Also, it's not as simple as you seem to think it is to write a good story. There are many people that are aspiring writers that are leagues below Duma's skill. You seem to be angry about something very trivial, which I do not understand, and you are constantly insulting other replies for reasons unknown to me. Also, though you may be able to pick apart stories, that does not mean you have the right, or reason, to do so anywhere you please.
Duma:I do have to agree with the grammar, and the fact that this is a fan-fiction. It cannot be called a book until you have attained several things: One: the copyright and permission from JC. two: a publisher. and Three: a more consistent storyline fixing with Avatar. Until then, I would refrain from using Book to describe this. Unfortunatly, I also have to agree with Shadow on that there is some Mary sue stuff going on. It's not extreme like I've seen in other works, but it is there. I will say more about this when I've read the rest.
Also, I do not know this Gatekeeper story. I would like to review it so I can understand Shadow's note.

So far, I look forward to reading more of it. The story does draw you along, if not in a perfect way, but it does draw you. Keep it up, and think about what I said. It's your story after all.

Eywa Ayngahu, ulte ayngati fpomil fywawìntxu.

Niwantaw

the gatekeeper is a book shadow is working on and if i remember correctly Duma offered to check it through several weeks ago and shadow Emailed him part of it (or all that was done i can't remember)
Only mostly AWOL.

ShadowMainZERO

#54
QuoteFirst off, Shadow: it's his first attempt at writing anything major, give him some slack.

Oh, I am. Mind you, The Gatekeeper is ym first shot at anything major as well. I don't have a LOT of experience when it comes to writing a fanfic; I just know the tools of the trade and rely on my time RPing.

QuoteAlso, it's not as simple as you seem to think it is to write a good story.

I know that. Writing a story is a very delicate process and few people can do it well.

QuoteThere are many people that are aspiring writers that are leagues below Duma's skill.

I know this as well. I used to spend a lot of time on http://www.fanfiction.net. That place is the home to bad fan-fiction (there are some good authors here and there though). I usually keep my mouth shut but for some reason I decided to actually do something about Duma.

QuoteYou seem to be angry about something very trivial, which I do not understand,

Please specify.

Quoteand you are constantly insulting other replies for reasons unknown to me.

I'm criticizing. Insulting would be "Your story sucks! It sucks balls! You are a gay fag for writing this story!" I, personally, say I don't like it and tell them why.

QuoteAlso, though you may be able to pick apart stories, that does not mean you have the right, or reason, to do so anywhere you please.

I do this whether I want o or not. It's both the gift and curse of every Troper. As I said earlier I just decided to use this to try and help Duma.

QuoteAlso, I do not know this Gatekeeper story. I would like to review it so I can understand Shadow's note.

As Tawtute Akawng said, it is my own fanfic. I have yet to post it. I am waiting for chapter 5 to be 100% complete so I can do the "once per week" schedule. Although, for the sake of this discussion I shall send you the prologue.


Come join the adventure in Strange Lands: A Pandoran RP!

The ultimate power is found in the incorruptible light hidden deep in the darkness. You must delve into the darkest part of your heart and find that light. Once you do, never let go of it. Remember: Your heart is the greatest weapon of all.

rslayer9 (Eyktan TxurŽitan)

#55
Quote from: Tìrey Tsmukan on May 19, 2010, 02:21:13 PM
Kaltxì frapo.

I just lit upon this project. I haven't had time to read all of the chapters, (I'm on five) but as of so far I think it is Sìltsana nìtxan. There are many things that need some work, (grammar mostly) but so far it's coming along quite nicely.

I've been writing my own novel for the past year or so, (note: it's not based on Avatar or anything) and I'm one hundred and twenty six pages into the first novel. So I know what it's like to write.
You said a while back that writing has become your new passion. I totally agree, when I first began to write, I did it because people thought I was good. But then it all changed. And now almost every waking moment for me is putting thoughts into my book.

Where the story is concerned in your fan-fic, there are things that seem to move very slow, while suddenly something happens that moves incredibly fast. It's hard to explain or show a place where this happens, as it can happen over the span of several paragraphs, but see if you can tweak it a little to minimize this.
Another thing that you didn't do much but I would still recommend changing. Character switching, when you do it. Try not to stay in the same narrative fashion, E.g when you switched between Ash and Darik, it was slightly confusing as you were still using I. when you make a character switch, make sure to make it clear that you've done that, and make sure to make something different about the narrative style.
And lastly, grammar grammar grammar! I would definitely recommend getting Microsoft word, (or something similar) as there are many mistakes, and in making those mistakes the reader is drawn away from the story. Keep an eye on what you're writing, get an editor, and practice grammar, and you'll be set.
(oh, one last thing, if you're going to use one world, try to stay in that one world. for instance, I haven't reached the part where Ash has done anything with those Halo swords, but that was very distracting to me. Try to keep with the Avatarness eh?)

Now I'm going to go into this flame war that has started. though I hope to stay neutral.

First off, Shadow: it's his first attempt at writing anything major, give him some slack. Also, it's not as simple as you seem to think it is to write a good story. There are many people that are aspiring writers that are leagues below Duma's skill. You seem to be angry about something very trivial, which I do not understand, and you are constantly insulting other replies for reasons unknown to me. Also, though you may be able to pick apart stories, that does not mean you have the right, or reason, to do so anywhere you please.
Duma:I do have to agree with the grammar, and the fact that this is a fan-fiction. It cannot be called a book until you have attained several things: One: the copyright and permission from JC. two: a publisher. and Three: a more consistent storyline fixing with Avatar. Until then, I would refrain from using Book to describe this. Unfortunatly, I also have to agree with Shadow on that there is some Mary sue stuff going on. It's not extreme like I've seen in other works, but it is there. I will say more about this when I've read the rest.
Also, I do not know this Gatekeeper story. I would like to review it so I can understand Shadow's note.

So far, I look forward to reading more of it. The story does draw you along, if not in a perfect way, but it does draw you. Keep it up, and think about what I said. It's your story after all.

Eywa Ayngahu, ulte ayngati fpomil fywawìntxu.


Thank you, most of the things you wrote in here i have told him many times ( Especially the character switching)

Quote from: ShadowMainZERO

Coming to the defense of your friend. How noble. Seriously though, just because a person doesn't like the work of someone else doesn't mean you halve to flame them. If you shelter Duma and only give him praise then when he is told that he sucks by anyone outside of his bubble will either destroy him or make him like this guy and think they are jealous or something.

As evidence I refer you to his response to my first post. He was saddened because I criticized his work. I put a lot of work into my fanfic and everything else I do but if someone criticizes it I accept that, ask them what they didn't like, then try to improve it.

As for who I am to criticize his work, I'm just a voice of reason. Just put chapter one of his story into Word 07 then hit "Check Spelling and Grammar". If you don't want to do that then check the sporking that SW9 and TI did. They count them for you. Then there is that hole, "character speach", thing. See my first post for the rest of my complaints.

As for the "lack of imagination" thing, don't make me laugh. The fanfic I mentioned, The Gatekeeper, I have shown it to many, many, people and have gotten nothing but praise. Several of those people have criticized me over several other things and a mojority would have tolf me if they hated it or not. It takes place in a Sci-Fi/High Fantasy setting, btw.



I did. Just to make things even clearer:

What Duma Should do to make his Story Better:

Remake every original character.
IMPROVE GRAMMAR.
Improve writing style
Improve the plot
Basically, redo the whole thing.


First off, you can't just tell someone to redo a whole book or fanfic. And another thing, why the hell does it matter if you call something a book or not. A Book is defined as - A set of written, printed, or blank pages fastened along one side and encased between protective covers. Now even though you cannot see it, he actually has it written in a notebook between two protective covers. So technically this is a Book and a Fan-Fiction.
Grammer, yes he has to work on his grammar. He actually got asked by someone to be a proof reader/ editor.
Can we please just stop this stupid war, just let it go, why would it matter to you if he continued putting his work onto this site, you don't run it. Just enjoy the rest of the site and leave this thread alone.
Thanks and have a good day.

Tìrey Tsmukan

Quote from: rslayer9 (Eyktan TxurŽitan) on May 19, 2010, 03:16:21 PM

Thank you, most of the things you wrote in here i have told him many times ( Especially the character switching)

Rutxe, I just spoke what I felt needed work.

Quote from: rslayer9 (Eyktan TxurŽitan) on May 19, 2010, 03:16:21 PM
Can we please just stop this stupid war, just let it go, why would it matter to you if he continued putting his work onto this site, you don't run it. Just enjoy the rest of the site and leave this thread alone.
Thanks and have a good day.

I agree, and as such, I will dismember myself from this current thread and simply await the next part in Duma's series. But I must resolve one last thing that I had started today.

Quote
QuoteFirst off, Shadow: it's his first attempt at writing anything major, give him some slack.

Oh, I am

are you? because I find what you have said to be harsh and strict. While I understand that you've spent much time on a site dedicated to showing what's a good fanfic and what's not, I feel that you should lower your standards just a bit.


Quote
QuoteYou seem to be angry about something very trivial, which I do not understand.

Please specify.

Apologies, I will attempt a better explanation.
What I am referring to, is your tiff with Rslayer9.

QuoteComing to the defense of your friend. How noble. Seriously though, just because a person doesn't like the work of someone else doesn't mean you halve to flame them. If you shelter Duma and only give him praise then when he is told that he sucks by anyone outside of his bubble will either destroy him or make him like this guy and think they are jealous or something.
one defense does not make a sheltering. Not in the extent that you are implying. Perhaps I am misunderstanding you, but it seemed here a rather vehement response to such a normal anger. I do understand why you were annoyed at Rslayer9, but it seemed trivial to me.

Quote
Quoteand you are constantly insulting other replies for reasons unknown to me.

I'm criticizing. Insulting would be "Your story sucks! It sucks balls! You are a gay fag for writing this story!" I, personally, say I don't like it and tell them why.

I phrased this wrong, what I meant was the overall phrasing of your sentences, giving a feeling through the text that you feel brought down by even talking to any of us. while I am guessing you did not intend this, it is what it feels to come across as. However, saying "This has to be one of the worst things I've ever read" is very inflammatory.

Quote
QuoteAlso, though you may be able to pick apart stories, that does not mean you have the right, or reason, to do so anywhere you please.


I do this whether I want o or not. It's both the gift and curse of every Troper. As I said earlier I just decided to use this to try and help Duma

while I understand your feeling, I will say again. Try to tone it down.

Quote
QuoteAlso, I do not know this Gatekeeper story. I would like to review it so I can understand Shadow's note.

As Tawtute Akawng said, it is my own fanfic. I have yet to post it. I am waiting for chapter 5 to be 100% complete so I can do the "once per week" schedule. Although, for the sake of this discussion I shall send you the prologue.

Thank you. I will Pm you back on my thoughts. But I will say that what I see seems quite different from what Duma did.

Irayo frapo, for being understanding. Thank you Rslayer9 for trying to stem the tide of anger. Thank you Duma for making a good stab at what most people see as an impossible goal.

Eywa hawnu ayngaru.




ShadowMainZERO

#57
Quote from: Tìrey Tsmukan on May 19, 2010, 04:59:43 PM
Quote
QuoteFirst off, Shadow: it's his first attempt at writing anything major, give him some slack.

Oh, I am

are you? because I find what you have said to be harsh and strict. While I understand that you've spent much time on a site dedicated to showing what's a good fanfic and what's not, I feel that you should lower your standards just a bit.

I could have been much harsher. I suppose my standards are too high.


Quote
QuoteYou seem to be angry about something very trivial, which I do not understand.

Please specify.

Apologies, I will attempt a better explanation.
What I am referring to, is your tiff with Rslayer9.[/quote]

Oh that. See my next response.

Quote
QuoteComing to the defense of your friend. How noble. Seriously though, just because a person doesn't like the work of someone else doesn't mean you halve to flame them. If you shelter Duma and only give him praise then when he is told that he sucks by anyone outside of his bubble will either destroy him or make him like this guy and think they are jealous or something.

one defense does not make a sheltering. Not in the extent that you are implying. Perhaps I am misunderstanding you, but it seemed here a rather vehement response to such a normal anger. I do understand why you were annoyed at Rslayer9, but it seemed trivial to me.

I was annoyed at him not for coming ti his aid but the way he did it. This, plus some things I shall mention shortly, are my reasons for saying it that way and my thoughts. DUMA PLEASE READ THIS: I was aggravated at Duma before for several reasons. Another member and myself came to the conclusion from reading your recent posts that he has an ego the size of the universe. Our evidence is: reply #112 in the A Child of Two Species comment thread (page eight), over-exaggerated character importance in the Strange Lands RP (seriously, Jake is Eywa's chosen foe the Blue Flute Clan. Not your guy), and general behavior in this topic. It seems to me that creating a fanfic that many people liked went straight to his head. That led me to believe this: He had lived a sheltered life and was praised for nearly everything. When he came here he held that "I'm very special and I can do no wrong" part back but as soon ad he was praised for something everything went back to what it was.

That is what I thought. If I am wrong (which I probably am) then I am sorry.

Quote
Quoteand you are constantly insulting other replies for reasons unknown to me.

I'm criticizing. Insulting would be "Your story sucks! It sucks balls! You are a gay fag for writing this story!" I, personally, say I don't like it and tell them why.

I phrased this wrong, what I meant was the overall phrasing of your sentences, giving a feeling through the text that you feel brought down by even talking to any of us. while I am guessing you did not intend this, it is what it feels to come across as. However, saying "This has to be one of the worst things I've ever read" is very inflammatory.[/quote]

Did I say that? Woops. I have read MUCH worse things then this (the worst of them all being this. I don't like Twilight but even I wouldn't do this). I hear by retract that statement. I am sorry.

Quote
QuoteAlso, though you may be able to pick apart stories, that does not mean you have the right, or reason, to do so anywhere you please.


I do this whether I want o or not. It's both the gift and curse of every Troper. As I said earlier I just decided to use this to try and help Duma

while I understand your feeling, I will say again. Try to tone it down.[/quote]

I'll try.

QuoteFirst off, you can't just tell someone to redo a whole book or fanfic.

Yes I can. Everything I write gets rewritten AT LEAST once. That's the writing process: Plan, Write, Rewrite, Edit.

QuoteAnd another thing, why the hell does it matter if you call something a book or not. A Book is defined as - A set of written, printed, or blank pages fastened along one side and encased between protective covers. Now even though you cannot see it, he actually has it written in a notebook between two protective covers. So technically this is a Book and a Fan-Fiction.
Grammer, yes he has to work on his grammar. He actually got asked by someone to be a proof reader/ editor.
Can we please just stop this stupid war, just let it go, why would it matter to you if he continued putting his work onto this site, you don't run it. Just enjoy the rest of the site and leave this thread alone.
Thanks and have a good day.

I'll let Tìrey Tsmukan re-answer this:

QuoteDuma:I do have to agree with the grammar, and the fact that this is a fan-fiction. It cannot be called a book until you have attained several things: One: the copyright and permission from JC. two: a publisher. and Three: a more consistent storyline fixing with Avatar. Until then, I would refrain from using Book to describe this

The prosecution rests.


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QuoteAnd another thing, why the hell does it matter if you call something a book or not. A Book is defined as - A set of written, printed, or blank pages fastened along one side and encased between protective covers. Now even though you cannot see it, he actually has it written in a notebook between two protective covers. So technically this is a Book and a Fan-Fiction.
Grammer, yes he has to work on his grammar. He actually got asked by someone to be a proof reader/ editor.
Can we please just stop this stupid war, just let it go, why would it matter to you if he continued putting his work onto this site, you don't run it. Just enjoy the rest of the site and leave this thread alone.
Thanks and have a good day.

I'll let Tìrey Tsmukan re-answer this:

QuoteDuma:I do have to agree with the grammar, and the fact that this is a fan-fiction. It cannot be called a book until you have attained several things: One: the copyright and permission from JC. two: a publisher. and Three: a more consistent storyline fixing with Avatar. Until then, I would refrain from using Book to describe this

The prosecution rests.
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I was only stating that the Definition of a Book, does not include requiring copyright permission, or a publisher. Therfore this is considered a Book.
And i'm sorry for coming on way too strong like i did, i had a bad day and it was only getting worse. I'm really not like that at all, sorry again.

ShadowMainZERO

Quote from: rslayer9 (Eyktan TxurŽitan) on May 19, 2010, 11:56:36 PM
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QuoteAnd another thing, why the hell does it matter if you call something a book or not. A Book is defined as - A set of written, printed, or blank pages fastened along one side and encased between protective covers. Now even though you cannot see it, he actually has it written in a notebook between two protective covers. So technically this is a Book and a Fan-Fiction.
Grammer, yes he has to work on his grammar. He actually got asked by someone to be a proof reader/ editor.
Can we please just stop this stupid war, just let it go, why would it matter to you if he continued putting his work onto this site, you don't run it. Just enjoy the rest of the site and leave this thread alone.
Thanks and have a good day.

I'll let Tìrey Tsmukan re-answer this:

QuoteDuma:I do have to agree with the grammar, and the fact that this is a fan-fiction. It cannot be called a book until you have attained several things: One: the copyright and permission from JC. two: a publisher. and Three: a more consistent storyline fixing with Avatar. Until then, I would refrain from using Book to describe this

The prosecution rests.

I was only stating that the Definition of a Book, does not include requiring copyright permission, or a publisher. Therfore this is considered a Book.
And i'm sorry for coming on way too strong like i did, i had a bad day and it was only getting worse. I'm really not like that at all, sorry again.

Technically you right but when people think "book" they don't think about what Duma is doing.

It's okay. We all have bad days.


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