Are you an AVATAR fan or a Na'vi fan?

[Irtaviš Ačankif]

Now before you try to kill me   let me explain the differences. Here is a little quiz to tell if you are more of an an Avatar fan or a Na'vi fan (assuming that you are at least one of those two):

1. Which of the following would you want to get for half of your monthly income?
A: Every single AVATAR theater poster that was released
B: The exact word-for-word Na'vi script for the final theatrical release

2. If James Cameron were to hire you for AVATAR 2, what role would you more want to play?
A: Cameraman
B: Na'vi pronounciation assistant

3. Which of the following you noticed in the AvatarMeet 2012 promo video?
AvatarMeet 2012 Promo Video
A: The atokirina' in the exhibit doesn't look right
B: Somebody said "Smukan si smuke" instead of "Smukan sì smuke".

4. Suppose you have a friend who is an Avatar fan. Which will piss you off more:
A: Showing off to you a cheap Walmart AVATAR poster
B: Pronouncing "Na'vi" without the glottal stop

5. What is the biggest problem you see with AvatarForums?
A: Too many newbies there
B: Too many people not learning Na'vi

6. What will happen if you met a fan who has a "Na'vi name" called Memiteh?
A: Start RP-ing with po
B: Force po to change sneyä name

IF YOU SELECTED MORE As THAN Bs, you are an AVATAR FAN.
IF YOU SELECTED MORE Bs THAN As, you are an NA'VI FAN.

I did this because I found an inverse relationship between Avatar fandom and Na'vi learning - compare the average fantardness of LN and ToS for example!

[Sezetirea216]

I kinda classify people into two groups, one group for people who love the movie only and the technical stuff that goes with it like how it was made. And they other group are the people who love the na'vi themselves and every aspect of their culture and are always making terbutaline to neytiri and jake (me)

[archaic]

1. Which of the following would you want to get for half of your monthly income?
A: Every single AVATAR theater poster that was released
B: The exact word-for-word Na'vi script for the final theatrical release

B

2. If James Cameron were to hire you for AVATAR 2, what role would you more want to play?
A: Cameraman
B: Na'vi pronounciation assistant

A

3. What detail (if any) made you laugh at the AvatarMeet 2012 promo video?

Spoiler

AvatarMeet 2012 Promo Video

A: Fake-looking Na'vi suits
B: Somebody grandly making an announcement saying "Smukan si smuke".

Neither.

4. Suppose you have a friend who is an Avatar fan. Which will piss you off more:
A: Showing off to you a cheap Walmart AVATAR poster
B: Pronouncing "Na'vi" without the glottal stop

B

5. What is the biggest problem you see with AvatarForums?
A: Too many newbies there
B: Too many people not learning Na'vi

Neither, never been there.

6. What will happen if you met a fan who has a "Na'vi name" called Memiteh?
A: Start RP-ing with po
B: Force po to change peyä name

Neither.

IF YOU SELECTED MORE As THAN Bs, you are an AVATAR FAN.
IF YOU SELECTED MORE Bs THAN As, you are an NA'VI FAN.

One A
Two B's
Three Neither's. Which would make me neither an AVATAR FAN nor a NA'VI FAN?  

[Nyx]

I'd say Na'vi without taking your quiz. With it, I had similar results to archaic's. Anyway, I like the movie, but what I really care about is how it was made, plus Pandora and the language. I would have loved to see just a documentary about Pandora, haha, and it's the language that keeps me coming back for more.

[Payoang]

3. What detail (if any) made you laugh at the AvatarMeet 2012 promo video?
AvatarMeet 2012 Promo Video

So, that's quite rude and insensitive to the people who put time and effort into creating the video, and are planning AvatarMeet. While I'm sure that rudeness wasn't your goal with this post, I do suggest revising your list to be less inflammatory. Irayo~

[mikkowilson]

5. What is the biggest problem you see with AvatarForums?

Where's your respect Tsmukan? Not very nìNa'vi of you.   >:-(


- Mikko

[Irtaviš Ačankif]

There would be a problem with anything in sight. For example, even this forum has problems.

[Swoka Ikran]

Now before you try to kill me   let me explain the differences. Here is a little quiz to tell if you are more of an an Avatar fan or a Na'vi fan (assuming that you are at least one of those two):

1. Which of the following would you want to get for half of your monthly income?
A: Every single AVATAR theater poster that was released
B: The exact word-for-word Na'vi script for the final theatrical release

A.

2. If James Cameron were to hire you for AVATAR 2, what role would you more want to play?
A: Cameraman
B: Na'vi pronounciation assistant

A.

3. Which of the following you noticed in the AvatarMeet 2012 promo video?
AvatarMeet 2012 Promo Video
A: The atokirina' in the exhibit doesn't look right
B: Somebody said "Smukan si smuke" instead of "Smukan sì smuke".

Network too slow ATM to watch it.

4. Suppose you have a friend who is an Avatar fan. Which will piss you off more:
A: Showing off to you a cheap Walmart AVATAR poster
B: Pronouncing "Na'vi" without the glottal stop

Both of them would piss me off, but if I had to choose one: A. (I own two theater posters from Avatar).

5. What is the biggest problem you see with AvatarForums?
A: Too many newbies there
B: Too many people not learning Na'vi

Never been there, no plans to go there.

6. What will happen if you met a fan who has a "Na'vi name" called Memiteh?
A: Start RP-ing with po
B: Force po to change peyä name

B.

IF YOU SELECTED MORE As THAN Bs, you are an AVATAR FAN.
IF YOU SELECTED MORE Bs THAN As, you are an NA'VI FAN.

I did this because I found an inverse relationship between Avatar fandom and Na'vi learning - compare the average fantardness of LN and ToS for example!

Three As, one B, two (undefined). Avatar fan it is

[Sezetirea216]

I kinda classify people into two groups, one group for people who love the movie only and the technical stuff that goes with it like how it was made. And they other group are the people who love the na'vi themselves and every aspect of their culture and are always making terbutaline to neytiri and jake (me)

. Terbutaline was supposed to be tributes, stupid auto correct

[hemmond]

There would be a problem with anything in sight. For example, even this forum has problems.

Only problem here is less activity and less active peole... More and more are learning the passive way...

[Irtaviš Ačankif]

Yup...I think we should make a lesson-by-lesson textbook (like Lesson 1. Pronounciation; Lesson 2. Simple sentences etc) for people instead of big grammar overviews like NiaN and Horen Lì'fyayä leNa'vi which would make people bored quickly.

[hemmond]

Yeah... There is mote than one project, which is attempting to do it... But only few of them are still in development... Others had died...

[Yawne Zize’ite]

It's a lot harder than it looks. I copied the table of contents from Thorsten Renk's smash hit Pedin Edhellen: a Sindarin-Course, and the length is frightening. Now, several items in the ToC take up less than a page, Thorsten is also teaching the Elvish alphabet, and basic Sindarin grammar is both more complicated and less complete than basic Na'vi grammar, but it's still a 150-page book.

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1 Personal pronouns and genitive 15
1.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15
1.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16
1.2.1 The definite and indefinite article . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16
1.2.2 The genitive . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17
1.2.3 Personal pronouns . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 18
1.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19
1.4 Tengwar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19
1.4.1 General Remarks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19
1.4.2 The 12 basic signs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19
2 Conjugation of A-verbs 21
2.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21
2.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22
2.2.1 Basic facts about Sindarin verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22
2.2.2 Pronominal endings for A-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22
2.2.3 Infinitive . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23
2.2.4 Imperative . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23
2.2.5 The gerund . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24
2.2.6 The use of 'and' . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 24
2.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25
2.4 Tengwar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25
2.4.1 More consonants . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25
2.4.2 Vowels . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25
2.4.3 Examples . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 26
3 The soft mutation (Lenition) 27
3.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 27
3.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28
3.2.1 General information . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28
3.2.2 The rules of mutation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 29
3.2.3 Consonant changes following 'and' . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 30
3.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31
3.4 Tengwar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31
3.4.1 More consonants . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31
3.4.2 Writing 'r' and 's' . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 32
3.4.3 The definite article . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 32
3.4.4 Punctuation marks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 32
3.4.5 Examples . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 32
4 Plural formation and nasal mutation 33
4.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 33
4.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34
4.2.1 Plural formation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34
4.2.2 Nasal mutation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 35
4.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 36
4.4 Tengwar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 36
4.4.1 Some special points . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 36
4.4.2 Examples . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 36
4.4.3 The Beleriand mode . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37
4.4.4 Examples . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37
5 Conjugation of I-verbs 39
5.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39
5.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40
5.2.1 General remarks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40
5.2.2 Pronominal endings for I-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40
5.2.3 Infinitive . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41
5.2.4 Imperative . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41
5.2.5 Gerund . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 41
5.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 42
5.4 Conversation - Greetings . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 42
6 Adjectives, Negation 43
6.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43
6.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
6.2.1 Adjectives . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 44
6.2.2 Negation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
6.2.3 Relative sentences . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
6.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 47
6.4 Conversation - Can you give me? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 47
7 Prefixes, Past tense of A-verbs, Possessives 49
7.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 49
7.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50
7.2.1 Prefixes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50
7.2.2 Possessives . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 51
7.2.3 Past tense of A-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 51
7.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53
7.4 Conversation - Comparisons . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 53
8 Prepositions 1, irregular Plurals 1, Object pronouns 55
8.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
8.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 56
8.2.1 Prepositions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 56
8.2.2 Irregular plural formation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 57
8.2.3 Agreement and disagreement . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 58
8.2.4 Object pronouns . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 59
8.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60
8.4 Conversation— an Invitation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 60
9 Past tense of I-verbs, irregular Plurals 2 61
9.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 61
9.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62
9.2.1 Past tense of I-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62
9.2.2 Demonstrative pronouns . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64
9.2.3 Imperative of 'to be' . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64
9.2.4 ai-Plurals . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64
9.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65
9.4 Conversation— the weather . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65
10 Future tense of A- and I-verbs, Numbers, irregular Plurals 3 67
10.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67
10.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68
10.2.1 The future tense . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 68
10.2.2 Plural formation for words ending in -u . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 69
10.2.3 Numbers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 70
10.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 71
10.4 Conversation— asking the way . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 71
11 Analogous verb forms, Class Plural 73
11.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 73
11.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74
11.2.1 Analogous past tenses for I-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 74
11.2.2 Analogous past tenses for A-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 75
11.2.3 Class plural . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 76
11.2.4 The relative pronoun in dative . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77
11.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77
11.4 Conversation— in battle . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 77
12 Prepositions 2, Mixed Mutation 79
12.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 79
12.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80
12.2.1 Prepositions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 80
12.2.2 The mixed mutation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 81
12.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 82
12.4 Conversation— tell about yourself! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 82
13 Prepositions 3, stop-mutation and liquid-mutation 85
13.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 85
13.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 86
13.2.1 Prepositions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 86
13.2.2 Stop-mutation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 87
13.2.3 Liquid-mutation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 87
13.2.4 New prefixes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 88
13.2.5 A variant article . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 88
13.2.6 Ordinal numbers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 88
13.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89
13.4 Conversation— the time . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 89
14 Participles 91
14.1 Dialog . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 91
14.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 92
14.2.1 Participles of A-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 92
14.2.2 Participles of I-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 93
14.2.3 Participles for verbs with analogous past tenses . . . . . . . . . . . 95
14.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 95
14.4 Conversation - in nature . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 96
15 GrammaticalMutations, expanded Plurals 99
15.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 99
15.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100
15.2.1 Grammatical mutation of adjectives . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100
15.2.2 Grammatical mutation of adverbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 101
15.2.3 Grammatical mutation of nouns . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 101
15.2.4 Grammatical mutation of verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 102
15.2.5 Expanded plural forms . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 102
15.2.6 Adverbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 102
15.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 103
15.4 Conversation - How do you feel? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 103
16 Subjunctive;Wishes, Obligations 105
16.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 105
16.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 106
16.2.1 Wishes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 106
16.2.2 Obligations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107
16.2.3 Necessities . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107
16.2.4 Subjunctive expressions - general remarks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107
16.2.5 Subjunctive expressions in present tense . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 108
16.2.6 Subjunctive expressions in future tense . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 108
16.2.7 Subjunctive expressions in past tense . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 108
16.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 109
16.4 Conversation - Letters . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 109
17 Irregular Verbs 111
17.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 111
17.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 112
17.2.1 Irregular perfect active participle for A-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . 112
17.2.2 Irregular past for I-verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 113
17.2.3 Irregular A-verb past tenses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 113
17.2.4 Truly irregular verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 113
17.2.5 I-affection for prefixes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 114
17.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 115
17.4 Conveying emphasis—word order . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 115
17.4.1 Standard word order . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 116
17.4.2 The verb in front position . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 116
17.4.3 Indirect objects in front position . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 117
18 Special case mutations 119
18.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 119
18.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 120
18.2.1 Archaic nasalized stops . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 120
18.2.2 Lenition . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 120
18.2.3 Nasal mutation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 121
18.2.4 Mixed mutation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 121
18.2.5 Stop mutation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 121
18.2.6 Liquid mutation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 121
18.2.7 List of the special cases . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 121
18.2.8 Analogical use . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 123
18.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 123
18.4 Expressions— 'all' and explicit pronouns . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 124
18.4.1 The use of 'all' . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 124
18.4.2 The use of pronouns in nominative . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 124
19 Pronouns as indirect objects, possessive endings 125
19.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125
19.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 126
19.2.1 Pronouns in dative . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 126
19.2.2 Pronouns in emphasized/reflexive dative . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 127
19.2.3 Possessive endings . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 127
19.2.4 Irregular Plurals . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 128
19.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 128
19.4 Translations into Sindarin— Remarks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 129
19.4.1 Recognize limits . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 129
19.4.2 Don't translate words but the sentence . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 129
20 Passive, Singular formation 131
20.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 131
20.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 132
20.2.1 The Passive . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 132
20.2.2 Passive by impersonal constructions . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 132
20.2.3 Passive using the PPP . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 133
20.2.4 Singulars from Plurals . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 133
20.2.5 Diminutive endings . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 133
20.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 134
20.4 Translations into Sindarin— 'that' . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 134
21 Phonological mutations 137
21.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 137
21.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 138
21.2.1 Compounds and loose compounds . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 138
21.2.2 Assimilation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 139
21.2.3 Phonological mutations in compounds . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140
21.2.4 Phonological mutations for loose compounds . . . . . . . . . . . . 140
21.2.5 Special cases— indeclinable forms . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 141
21.2.6 Double-prefixes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 141
21.2.7 Pronouns as indirect objects . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 142
21.2.8 Relative sentences . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 142
21.2.9 Adverbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 142
21.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 143
21.4 Translations into Sindarin— Adverbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 143
21.4.1 Temporal sequences . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 143
21.4.2 Causal sequences . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 144
22 Word reconstruction 145
22.1 Text . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 145
22.2 Grammar . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 146
22.2.1 Nouns from verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 146
22.2.2 Persons performing an action . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 147
22.2.3 Composed things . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 147
22.2.4 Adjectives from verbs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 147
22.2.5 The use of infinitives . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 148
22.2.6 More question words . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 148
22.3 Vocabulary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 148
22.4 Translations into Sindarin— creating words . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 149
22.4.1 General remarks regarding reconstructions . . . . . . . . . . . . . 149
22.4.2 Different types of reconstruction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 149
A Table of mutations 151
B Tengwar and their names 153
C Vocabulary Sindarin-English 155

I like the basic idea of starting with pronouns and "to be", introducing inflections bit by bit, moving on to word derivation and a concluding chapter on translation issues. But equally important, in my opinion, is the "fun" factor of a continuing story (one dialogue segment per chapter) and side-notes such as how to ask directions and talk about the weather. The Prezi lessons look like a solid model, but they're presented in a most un-book-like fashion.

Unfortunately, even if I had the inclination or Na'vi skill (var nivume oe!) to do this, I've got far too much to do until next semester. Under instructor supervision, I might be able to contribute an early chapter.

[Irtaviš Ačankif]

I think that that ToC is more like that of Na'vi in a Nutshell. I'm thinking of a more practical-based thing starting with pronounciation and then simple greetings, fill-in-the-blank sentences, etc. Like the Spanish text I have.

I'm busy with translating NiaN into Chinese though...

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

Looks like more of a cross between NiAN and the Reference Grammar

But back to topic.... I scored 3 A's, 2 B's and 1 undefined. I followed the directions and selected 'Avatar fan'. But I know I am very much more a Na'vi fan. Some of the questions are hard to deal with.... like the question about working on the sequel. I would love to be a dialect coach... but I would make a far better cameraman, as I am a television engineer by trade (and occasionally run camera, but am usually doing video engineer on productions). So, I had to (reluctantly) choose cameraman. So, answering the questions honestly gave the wrong results.

[Yawne Zize’ite]

It sounds like I should have posted the first chapter instead. 

It is similar to Na'vi in a Nutshell in that the focus is teaching grammar, but the presentation is that of a typical modern language textbook. Each lesson has a dialogue using the upcoming lesson's grammar, various grammar points covering various parts of speech, and a wordlist to learn. Pedin Edhellen does lack exercises for the reader of any type other than "figure out what the lesson text means without looking at the translation".

So what were people actually thinking of? There's already a Na'vi exercise book, a Na'vi introductory grammar, and a Na'vi reference grammar; it seems like what is missing are structured grammar-vocab lessons.

A token nod to the topic: definitely a Na'vi fan. I came to Na'vi through general conlanging, rather than through Avatar.

[Kamean]

I'm definitely Na'vi fun.

But I love Avatar too.

[Carborundum]

5 B and 1 NA. Also:

6. What will happen if you met a fan who has a "Na'vi name" called Memiteh?
A: Start RP-ing with po
B: Force po to change peyä name

That should be sneyä.

I guess I'm a Na'vi fan, huh?

[hemmond]

It was pretty close to me, but I'm Na'vi fan too.

['Oma Tirea]

I know I'm a straight-up Na'vi fan without having to take the super-short, 6-question informal quiz you set up