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Na'vi martial arts development
« on: March 06, 2012, 11:11:22 pm »
So...

The Na'vi are very aware of Life Energy and its flow.  They are attuned to their surroundings in ways most humans aren't.  They have a concept of holistic comprehension of like beings, which is how I interpret their word kame, which is to grok.  OK, maybe grok is a little strong unless you throw tsaheyl si in there as well.

ANYway, I could see the Na'vi might have some sort of Chi Gung type system for healing, toning and certain kinds of martial arts. 

Or do you guys see them as strictly tribal in African or South American terms?

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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 09:55:40 am »
i think maybe Capoeira style


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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2012, 09:56:57 am »
i think maybe Capoeira style

Explain this, please.  I have never heard of it.

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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2012, 12:11:13 pm »
 I think that they would do FINE with the use of Tae Kwon Do.
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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2012, 12:24:22 pm »
i think maybe Capoeira style

Explain this, please.  I have never heard of it.

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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 12:57:28 pm »
Hmm.  Interesting acrobatics.  Not sure how useful it would be in actual combat.  In the game, it seems to be used mostly for travel, which seems inefficient to me.

About the game: what happened to the Na'vi's queue?  And his tail seems a little short.  Maybe that's why he's angry?  ;)

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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2012, 05:06:58 pm »
Of course, Na'vi should have their own martial arts. Definitely fight with a dagger, and wrestling. I think they should be simple in execution and very deadly, like the European medieval martial arts. Something like this. ;)
« Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 05:09:02 pm by Kamean »
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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2012, 05:35:05 pm »
 This will give you an idea of what I know, and believe is a VERY formidable fighting style for the Na'vi.



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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2012, 05:55:48 pm »
Looks interesting. But it is obvious that such a style of fighting is very tiring. The legs are always slower than the hands. The legs should be used, but do not prefer them. If kicking has not reached the goal, it puts the fighter on the verge of defeat. He is in an unstable position, giving the enemy an opportunity to catch him by the leg and hit in a variety of vulnerabilities.
And the last one. Grips and throws are always better than hit. In a real fight, all cool methods are replaced by simple. Demonstrations are great, but they should not be confused with the real battle for life and death.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 06:02:24 pm by Kamean »
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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2012, 07:03:13 pm »
 There is a time to use hands, and a time to use feet. There was a time when I lived in Bad Tolz Germany, and Worked in Munchen. At the end of one workday, I was coming up a flight of stairs from the "S Bahn" station on the north side of the HauptBahnHof, and just as I entered the building, I saw a Gastearbeiter take a pistol, and shoot someone else in the face.
 Unlike the United States, where everyone would just stare, a bunch of us gave chase through the baggage locker section, into the commercial freight section. At that point, I caught him, and at a dead run, snap kicked him in the small of the back, but instead of falling forward, because of the highly polished stone floor, his feet flew out to the front of him, and we both wound of on the floor for a moment, me, on my back, under him, and him, on HIS back lying on my chest, reaching for his gun.
 From where I was, I hook kicked him in the groin four or five times "life or death" hard and the gun flew out of his hand, I threw him off of me, slammed him face down on the floor, and arm barred his one arm, and had my knee in the back of his neck, right on the edge of snapping it,
 I got a thank you letter, and he went to prison. The guy he shot survived.
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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2012, 07:59:37 am »
Niri Te - Nice.

Frankly, I do Taekwondo to build up my speed and strength (cuz I'm a 95lb. scarecrow), but I do want to make the comment that for me and other women in my group, punches and arm techniques are so much more tiring and I prefer kicks.  However, as far as warfare goes - and Niri Te, I don't mean to dispute your account which was very cool by the way, kudos to you - I would think arm techniques to be more effective, at least for the Na'vi.  I mean, they are masters of the bow and (per the game) the staff and riding.  Plus, for them, they also have a tail to account for and keep track of.  Somehow, I can foresee a warrior gearing up with a beautiful basic side-kick, his tail out for balance, and some idiot accidentally cuts it off.  Morbid, but not impossible, especially in battle.

And to end my babbling, I cannot quite imagine the Na'vi doing anything more violent than yoga. o_0


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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2012, 08:20:31 am »
There is a time to use hands, and a time to use feet. There was a time when I lived in Bad Tolz Germany, and Worked in Munchen. At the end of one workday, I was coming up a flight of stairs from the "S Bahn" station on the north side of the HauptBahnHof, and just as I entered the building, I saw a Gastearbeiter take a pistol, and shoot someone else in the face.
 Unlike the United States, where everyone would just stare, a bunch of us gave chase through the baggage locker section, into the commercial freight section. At that point, I caught him, and at a dead run, snap kicked him in the small of the back, but instead of falling forward, because of the highly polished stone floor, his feet flew out to the front of him, and we both wound of on the floor for a moment, me, on my back, under him, and him, on HIS back lying on my chest, reaching for his gun.
 From where I was, I hook kicked him in the groin four or five times "life or death" hard and the gun flew out of his hand, I threw him off of me, slammed him face down on the floor, and arm barred his one arm, and had my knee in the back of his neck, right on the edge of snapping it,
 I got a thank you letter, and he went to prison. The guy he shot survived.
There is a time for feet, and a time for hands.
Niri Te

Wou, ma Niri, it sounds like that assailant was lucky he survived.  You could've taken him out permanently. Ausgezeichnet!  I hope your companions were standing by, ready to help.  There are times when people should get involved and that sounds like one of them.

I think the lesson in the story is that you have to be prepared to use BOTH hands and feet.


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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2012, 08:44:55 am »
Niri Te - Nice.

Frankly, I do Taekwondo to build up my speed and strength (cuz I'm a 95lb. scarecrow), but I do want to make the comment that for me and other women in my group, punches and arm techniques are so much more tiring and I prefer kicks.  However, as far as warfare goes - and Niri Te, I don't mean to dispute your account which was very cool by the way, kudos to you - I would think arm techniques to be more effective, at least for the Na'vi.  I mean, they are masters of the bow and (per the game) the staff and riding.  Plus, for them, they also have a tail to account for and keep track of.  Somehow, I can foresee a warrior gearing up with a beautiful basic side-kick, his tail out for balance, and some idiot accidentally cuts it off.  Morbid, but not impossible, especially in battle.

And to end my babbling, I cannot quite imagine the Na'vi doing anything more violent than yoga. o_0

Remember how Neytiri reacted when protecting Jake from Tsu'tey?  IIRC, she had a few smooth moves there.  She wouldn't hesitate to use her knife - although I'm not sure she was actually holding it correctly for defensive use.  I guess knife fighting is an art in itself.  I've seen the USMC Ka-Bar up close and personal and it's impressive.  I'm guessing Marines get trained to use it properly, so I'm thinking the Na'vi would've developed the art too.

But here I was thinking of things more like shaolin warrior training, chi gung or staff fighting.  Below is an interesting video about chi gong.  Think what you will, but I have studied energy medicine myself and been a part of a doctoral study which demonstrates its effectiveness, and I can say it truly is amazing when you know what you're doing.  One would think the Na'vi with their more direct connection to Eywa would understand this even better than we do.




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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2012, 09:36:45 am »
There is a time to use hands, and a time to use feet. There was a time when I lived in Bad Tolz Germany, and Worked in Munchen. At the end of one workday, I was coming up a flight of stairs from the "S Bahn" station on the north side of the HauptBahnHof, and just as I entered the building, I saw a Gastearbeiter take a pistol, and shoot someone else in the face.
 Unlike the United States, where everyone would just stare, a bunch of us gave chase through the baggage locker section, into the commercial freight section. At that point, I caught him, and at a dead run, snap kicked him in the small of the back, but instead of falling forward, because of the highly polished stone floor, his feet flew out to the front of him, and we both wound of on the floor for a moment, me, on my back, under him, and him, on HIS back lying on my chest, reaching for his gun.
 From where I was, I hook kicked him in the groin four or five times "life or death" hard and the gun flew out of his hand, I threw him off of me, slammed him face down on the floor, and arm barred his one arm, and had my knee in the back of his neck, right on the edge of snapping it,
 I got a thank you letter, and he went to prison. The guy he shot survived.
There is a time for feet, and a time for hands.
Niri Te
Great work ma Niri Te!

I mean, what need to use the arms and legs both, but only when their use will be most effective. And don't prefer one or the other.
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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2012, 10:28:13 am »
 And I agree with you 100 percent, ma Kamean.
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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2012, 05:23:54 pm »
Just skimmed over some of the posts. I took a year and a half of an Israeli Martial Art called Krav Maga. It uses a lot of upper body stuff but also some kicks. I prefer punches tho. Those are much easier for me to throw and block. The kicks are trickier and also put me in an unstable position. (Or perhaps I just need to work on my technique ;) ) Those of you who have met me IRL know that I'm NOT a big guy and I certainly don't look like much, but I've actually surprised people in my class (who had been in it longer than me) with how hard I can pack a punch. There were some kicks that we learned that were not very powerful for me as my punches. But yeah, I'm an upper-body guy.

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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2012, 05:55:55 pm »
If people say - "the best martial art", they forgetting to add - "the best for me".
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Re: Na'vi martial arts development
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