Replacement of a dead Ikran?

[Swoka Ikran]

I've been wondering this for a while now.

Does a Na'vi get to choose a new ikran if their existing one dies? If so, how exactly would that be done? Do they just go to a banshee rookery and hope another ikran will choose them?

[Niwantaw]

"Steve your ikran is dead"

"Damn it not again.. ahh well looks like another climb for me"

[Puvomun]

I think so, yes. After all, when one is taronyu one is "ready". Then you get to choose your own ikran. So if the one you fly with dies, I am sure you can make a bond with another one.

Interestingly enough I had a thought about this (the death of an ikran) and put that here in Tsaheylu networking.

[Swoka Ikran]

Kind of what I thought. They just replace it when it dies.

As to your question in the other topic...I'm sure they feel the suffering/death of the animal to which they are bonded. Think about when Neytiri and Seze got shot out of the air...she screams out in pain when Seze gets hit. After the crash, it appears that she wasn't hit by the bullets, only the ikran.

[Puvomun]

Kind of what I thought. They just replace it when it dies.

As to your question in the other topic...I'm sure they feel the suffering/death of the animal to which they are bonded. Think about when Neytiri and Seze got shot out of the air...she screams out in pain when Seze gets hit. After the crash, it appears that she wasn't hit by the bullets, only the ikran.

Your question is a good one though. After all, Neytiri explained that an ikran only flies with one hunter, so it could be possible that a hunter only flies with one ikran. But that might depend on the lifespan of ikran, in that case.

And thank you for the thought on the tsaheylu topic!, ma 'eylan!

[Swoka Ikran]

Your question is a good one though. After all, Neytiri explained that an ikran only flies with one hunter, so it could be possible that a hunter only flies with one ikran. But that might depend on the lifespan of ikran, in that case.

That reminds me: What happens to the ikran if its rider dies? Does it die along with the hunter who rode it? Or does it just remain a loner for the rest of its life?

As for the hunter having only one ikran...that's a possibility, seeing how deep the connection between the two of them is.

[Lolet]

Not to mention the hunter would have to walk around or ride pa'li the rest of their life.

[P.A.'li makto]

I think there's a huge difference between the Na'vi and the ikrans. That is: the Na'vi need the ikran (for hunting, travelling, fun, god-only-knows-what), but the ikran doesn't really need the Na'vi. It's a tamed animal, roughly saying. So I think a person can get an other ikran if s/he wants, or even several ikrans at the same time (not for sure, of course!), in spite of the fact that an ikran does fly only with one taronyu in the whole life.
So

What happens to the ikran if its rider dies?

Lives happily ever after...

[bommel]

I think there's a huge difference between the Na'vi and the ikrans. That is: the Na'vi need the ikran (for hunting, travelling, fun, god-only-knows-what), but the ikran doesn't really need the Na'vi. It's a tamed animal, roughly saying. So I think a person can get an other ikran if s/he wants, or even several ikrans at the same time (not for sure, of course!), in spite of the fact that an ikran does fly only with one taronyu in the whole life.
So

What happens to the ikran if its rider dies?

Lives happily ever after...

I would agree to that

[P.A.'li makto]

Hey, you! Go and prepare for your last exam tomorrow!!! (What shall I keep saying to you when you don't have any more exams...? )

[bommel]

Hey, you! Go and prepare for your last exam tomorrow!!! (What shall I keep saying to you when you don't have any more exams...? )

It's just "Multithreading on desktop systems"
Not that difficult to learn for because it's programming (and I'm good at it because I'm doing this since I'm twelve years old ^^)
But lets wait for the results perhaps you have to rant and rave at me

[Rain]

"Steve your ikran is dead"

Steve? Is that a legitimate Na'vi name?
I'm just kidding, Tawtewng.
I really hope it's possible for a Na'vi to get another Ikran. Then again, I hope there's some kind of limit for that so the irresposible Na'vi don't keep killing off perfectly good Ikran. Maybe you get one more chance, then if your second Ikran dies you're sunk.

['Oma Tirea]

I think there's a huge difference between the Na'vi and the ikrans. That is: the Na'vi need the ikran (for hunting, travelling, fun, god-only-knows-what), but the ikran doesn't really need the Na'vi. It's a tamed animal, roughly saying. So I think a person can get an other ikran if s/he wants, or even several ikrans at the same time (not for sure, of course!), in spite of the fact that an ikran does fly only with one taronyu in the whole life.
So

What happens to the ikran if its rider dies?

Lives happily ever after...

...as was the case with Tsu'tey.

[Hufwe ta'em]

That is the same question, what happen if a Na'vi die, can Ikran have another rider, i think no.

By the way i still have this Ikran for sale before i send im to the scrap yard


http://forum.learnnavi.org/spam/sale-sale-sale-sale/msg255590/#msg255590

[Puvomun]

That is the same question, what happen if a Na'vi die, can Ikran have another rider, i think no.

Indeed. Recall Neytiri's words to Jake: Ikran is not horse. Ikran will fly with one hunter only.

[Tsamsiyu92]

Lives happily ever after...

I doubt this, because the Ikran can get quite close to the hunter, it will probably feel sorrow if the hunter dies.

[Eyamsiyu]

Yes... but eventually it will move on.  It won't be a happily ever after, but it will still continue to live.

[Nusumea Tirea]

I think both can have a new partner if the other one dies. "Ikran will fly with one hunter only" might just mean, that you should not try to fly with an ikran of somebody else.

I wonder if Toruk counts as an oversize Ikran here, because Jake did make tsaheylu with him and at the end releases him. So maybe the "flies with one hunter only" is more like a tradition and good behavior (maybe from both sides, Ikran and rider) than a physical or spiritual impossibility.
And for skxawngs who don't care for their Ikrans, well they would have the memory and the next one will know it then 

[Eyamsiyu]

She did also add to that phrase "in her whole life."  Only one for the ikran.

['Oma Tirea]

I think both can have a new partner if the other one dies. "Ikran will fly with one hunter only" might just mean, that you should not try to fly with an ikran of somebody else.

I wonder if Toruk counts as an oversize Ikran here, because Jake did make tsaheylu with him and at the end releases him. So maybe the "flies with one hunter only" is more like a tradition and good behavior (maybe from both sides, Ikran and rider) than a physical or spiritual impossibility.

It even looks like a toruk is an ikran 2-3 times a large as your normal ikran, and differently colored, too.

And for skxawngs who don't care for their Ikrans, well they would have the memory and the next one will know it then 

Maybe a skxawng wouldn't even get an ikran.  Tiverkup ayskxawng....