Star Wars: The Force Awakens just beat Avatar in the box office.

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I've got to admit, it was a pretty good movie, but it will only have about 2 years of glory. When Avatar 2 comes out, I am 100% sure that it will again be #1. I think Avatar and Star Wars will be rivals the next several years, because Star Wars VIII, IX, X, XI, and XII are on their way. Let's all hope for the best.
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The Force Awakens didn't beat Avatar in worldwide box office. Avatar still holds that title.

BlueHusky2154

I know. I should have been more specific. What I meant was in North America box office.
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QuoteStar Wars: The Force Awakens just beat Avatar in the box office.
:'(    :'(

I am surprised it was so soon, but not shocked that it happened, remember that Avatar came out in the middle of a global recesion, one that's more or less over now, for much of the world.
Have Star Wars X, XI, and XII been confirmed?
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    Where do i start? Well... i wrote comment on FB under LN post but i'll write the all reasons here as well.


    • StarWars hype
    The 'new StarWars movies', exactly Epizode VII, are super-overhyped movie/thing i've ever seen. In wide-context, SW universe is very milked thing, i mean, lots of companies try to make as much money on SW fanboy as possible for example model of X-wing figter cost about 100~150$. That's thing that Cameron did not let to happend. That's why Avatar left behind. SW is/was still here even if here is not any 'new' movies.

    Also, SW hype cover good movies like 'The Martin' or 'Everest'.
    • Huge fanbase
    In 2017, SW will be there for long 40 years. Avatar is here 'only' for 6 years.
    'SW universe' has 3 movies pre-trilogy + 3 movies original trilogy + will be there 3 movies new-trilogy + Rogue squadron + film about
Hans Solo . That's 11 movies. Perhaps, i miss one. 'Avatar universe' has one movies yet and three next are in production as you know, of course.
  • SW's box office to Avatar's one
As it is in time i'm writing it. It's most about ratio NA v other World. Avatar has 27.3% - 72.7%, Titanic has 30.1% - 69.9% and Jurassic World 39.1% - 60.9%. Star Wars:The Force Awakens has 48.7% - 51.3% yet (7.1.2016).
  • reason why it'll not become top 1 World-wide
The predistion of made moeny is math and statictics but the biggest optimist estimate is about $2.5B ($2 500 000 000)

Edit: Also China's gov. banned Avatar in 1600 theaters so it could made even bigger profit.
  • China possibilites
Some people said that with China, SW can beat Avatar world-wide but the reason why it'll not happen is Chinese culture. IIRC, In China is more popular Anime-like thing that our West-thing like StarWars etc. You can comlpain something like "But Avatar is also from West." Yes, it's but Na'vi culture and their love with forest is more familiar to China culture than StarWars. Also, the Chinese communist party wanted to ban Avatar because of 'Fear of Popular Revolt'.
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1. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=avatar.htm
2. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=titanic.htm
3. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=jurassicpark4.htm
4. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=starwars7.htm
5. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-star-wars-force-852274
6. http://www.haaretz.com/news/report-china-bans-avatar-from-1-600-cinemas-due-to-fear-of-popular-revolt-1.265734
7. http://avatarseaofblue.blogspot.cz/2015/11/will-star-wars-force-awakens-dethrone.html?spref=tw
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Ricardo

Who cares?
I love Avatar and I'm okay with Star Wars (but won't watch the new movies in cinema).
It's just a number game.
Factors like inflation, cinema culture and potential audience sizes lead to nearly uncomparable situations.
My friend Wikipedia says that adjusted for inflation the eternal #1 is still Gone with the Wind with $ 6.6 billions.
If you see that at its time the US population was less than half than now (and world population was only a third) you could think about ~20 billions for it.
I don't know how any movie could beat this.

But I don't care.
I'm looking forward to the sequels and prequel, comics and what else might come.
Maybe it can become a motivation for J.C. to do even better work to get back his throne in some years.  ;)
And that would be something we all can benefit from.

Toliman

I don't care this.

I love Avatar and which movie is commercialy more successful is not important for me.

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I expected Avatar to suck, badly. I originally went to see it because I had a few hours to kill, and I felt I could pick up some ammunition to occasionally snipe at the fanbois with (nothing really mean or hurtful, I'm not really nasty like that).
I watched, and was forever changed. Mega hater fail!
Then, having watched it once, I found excuses to watch it quite a few more times (I'd never watched a movie more than once in the theater before). The rest is history.

I will watch SW VII in the theater at some point, I strongly doubt I'll watch it there more than once.
I own multiple copies of Avatar on disc, I don't expect I'll own more than one copy of SW VII, if at all.

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Vawmataw

Quote from: Toliman on January 07, 2016, 12:48:58 PM
I don't care this.

I love Avatar and which movie is commercialy more successful is not important for me.
*+1 spam*

I have never ever ever watched any Star Wars movie. I played a Star Wars lego game on Xbox 360 and know the famous ''Luke, I'm your father'', but that's it. So I'm not more interested to watch the seventh episode. Sorryz.
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Wind12

Really the only thing I somewhat caught on to from SW was speaking like Yoda, lol

"Choose you, the Ikran will" :P :P

I do hope the SW fans had fun, and I can't wait until it is our turn to see more of our franchise revealed to us :D

P.A.'li makto

Originally I wanted to write (when I saw the title of this topic) : "so what?" But than I saw Ricardo's post:

Quote from: Ricardo on January 07, 2016, 04:33:50 AM
Who cares?
I love Avatar and I'm okay with Star Wars (but won't watch the new movies in cinema).
It's just a number game.
Factors like inflation, cinema culture and potential audience sizes lead to nearly uncomparable situations.
My friend Wikipedia says that adjusted for inflation the eternal #1 is still Gone with the Wind with $ 6.6 billions.
If you see that at its time the US population was less than half than now (and world population was only a third) you could think about ~20 billions for it.
I don't know how any movie could beat this.

But I don't care.
I'm looking forward to the sequels and prequel, comics and what else might come.
Maybe it can become a motivation for J.C. to do even better work to get back his throne in some years.  ;)
And that would be something we all can benefit from.

... and now I'd just like to say: agreed!  :)

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Quote from: Toliman on January 07, 2016, 12:48:58 PM
I don't care this.

I love Avatar and which movie is commercialy more successful is not important for me.
This and what Ricardo said. Commercial success is for producents and investors, for us is important visual beauty and idea.
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Quote from: Blue Elf on January 08, 2016, 02:41:28 PM
Quote from: Toliman on January 07, 2016, 12:48:58 PM
I don't care this.

I love Avatar and which movie is commercialy more successful is not important for me.
This and what Ricardo said. Commercial success is for producents and investors, for us is important visual beauty and idea.

Yeah, and Avatar is visually stunning, and the idea, well, reached us at least.  Not everyone, though, alas.  *sigh*
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Quote from: Vawmataw on January 07, 2016, 04:05:39 PM
Quote from: Toliman on January 07, 2016, 12:48:58 PM
I don't care this.

I love Avatar and which movie is commercialy more successful is not important for me.
*+1 spam*

I have never ever ever watched any Star Wars movie. I played a Star Wars lego game on Xbox 360 and know the famous ''Luke, I'm your father'', but that's it. So I'm not more interested to watch the seventh episode. Sorryz.
You should watch episodes 4,5 & 6, there are many pop culture references and quotes from them. If you can track down the original editions, they are deffo the best, IMHO.
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Vawmataw

If each episode lasts 135 minutes, it makes 405 minutes, or 6.75 hours.

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They are quite enjoyable movies, it's not a punishment.


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"You are here by sentenced to serve 6.75 hours in front Star Wars, without possibility of parole. And may God have mercy upon your soul!"

;)  ;D
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Ertew

Box office, inflation, etc...
Real truth is that both SW trilogies build huge fandom. Even bad movie with 5/10 rating will earn money because fans want to know what's new into SW universe. So, SW7 should earn more than AV1. If SW7 are bad, SW8 will earn lot less money. That's how it works.

Question is, why AV1 earn so much money? IMO because AV1 is like an addiction ;) . Many peoples want to see the same movie second time, but only AV1 force fans to watch it 4, 5 or even more times. So, 5y ago, small AV1 fandom create big money. Today fandom was bigger and re-release will greatly increase counter.
*Wish to AV1 collectors edition in cinema.*

So, when Av2 be released, fandom should be smaller than SW fandom, but multiple views per fan should break world record again.
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