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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2011, 01:16:41 am »
Very good!  ;D

For the first first one, I would maybe say: "Holpxaype ayioangit tsun nga tsive'a?" - How many animals can you see?
For the second first, why "ay+"?

For the third , maybe "Rä'ä fpìl ki taron!" would be better? "Don't think, but instead hunt!" :D
1: Oh, ayngal lu kxeyey, of course, oengal should be here.

3: I think ki can't be used as it is comes together with ke, but for negative imperativ (I hope I'm using linguistic terms correctly) we use rä'ä. But probably tup fits here: Rä'ä fpìl tup taron!

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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2011, 01:26:46 am »
3: I think ki can't be used as it is comes together with ke, but for negative imperativ (I hope I'm using linguistic terms correctly) we use rä'ä. But probably tup fits here: Rä'ä fpìl tup taron!

Ki actually can come together with both ke and rä'ä, which is closely related.  Also be sure not to confuse ki and tup....

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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2011, 01:36:19 am »
Ki actually can come together with both ke and rä'ä, which is closely related.  Also be sure not to confuse ki and tup....
What is the difference between ki and tup? As i know, ki can be used _only_ with ke/rä'ä, tup in all other usage cases, but they both means insted of/rather than. Is there any other difference?
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2011, 01:17:13 pm »
Only tup means "instead of/rather than".  Ki is a little different, meaning something like "but instead, but rather", and thus would not fit too well if it's not used without ke/rä'ä.

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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2011, 03:10:29 pm »
Srane, oel fpìl futa oel tslam fì'ut.
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2011, 01:44:17 am »
oel sìlpey tsnì, oe ke hawngkrr. fìtsenge lu äo kelkutìkangkem.
Please correct me on my Na'vi speech, irayo.
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2011, 02:26:06 am »
oel sìlpey tsnì, oe ke hawngkrr. fìtsenge lu äo kelkutìkangkem.
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2011, 02:46:26 am »
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« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2011, 03:21:17 am »
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2011, 01:51:53 pm »
This week's homework

Write a little background story about one character that you choose below.
You can choose to write as the character or about it.
Age, interest, family and so on. 'ivong tìronsrel!



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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2011, 04:31:15 pm »
Age, interest, family and so on. 'ivong tìronsel!
Srake ngal fpìl tìronsrelit, ma Le'eylan? It is really hard to understand other people sometimes, typing error dictionary is needed :)

I have some questions related to our today's lesson:
- I'm not sure if I understand well this: Oel tsole'a tsakemit a ngal fkxenit tolìng por. When I've seen it first time, I thought it is kxeyey and it should be:
Oel tsole'a tsatutanit a ngal fkxenit tolìng por. What is correct and why, can you explain?
- what is difference between "X a lu Y" and "X alu Y" ?
- you are missing neyn color. But it is strange color, as it describes not single color, but everything near to teyr - same as vawn for everything near to layon.
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2011, 04:59:39 pm »
Yes you're correct, it was supposed to be tìronsrel. Thank you!

- I was going for: I saw this action- that you gave him/her a vegetable.
The sentences you wrote mean two completely different things, but both are correct.

- I hope the following examples will help you understand the difference:

A lu
Oel tsole'a tutanit a lu txur nìtxan. - I saw the man that is very strong.
Ngal yerom tsafkxenit a oe tolìng ngaru. - You're eating that vegetable that I gave to you.

Alu
Mì na'ring oel tsole'a tutanit alu Akwey. - In the forest I saw a man, that is, Akwey.
Oe längu ngeyn, alu zivene oe hivahaw set. - I am tired, with other words, I should sleep now.

- As you said, neyn is not a color, neither is vawm. I just wanted to present the colors.
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2011, 08:51:42 am »
Fìmeveng lu Apxanari sì I'vawm.

'Eve (kllpa) lu Apxanari, 'evan (fäpa) lu I'vawm. Fìmeveng layu mìpa meharyu sì merolyu Omatikayayä.
Puvomunil sì Amhulil mefoti kayeiar fra'u.

I'vawmä sempulil rä'ä nìyew peyä 'itanit lìyu rolyu, slä Puvomun por pìmlltxe. Set I'vawmä sempulru lu kxayl fpìlfya ne peyä 'itan.

Krr a lì'fya lam sraw, may' frivìp utralit.

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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2011, 09:11:10 am »
Very good (wie immer... ::) )

Fìmeveng lu Apxanari sì I'vawm.

'Eve (kllpa) lu Apxanari, 'evan (fäpa) lu I'vawm. Fìmeveng layu mìpa meharyu sì merolyu Omatikayayä.
Puvomunil sì Amhulil mefoti kayeiar fra'u.

I'vawmä sempulil rä'ä nìyew peyä 'itanit lìyu rolyu, slä Puvomun por pìmlltxe. Set I'vawmä sempulru lu kxayl fpìlfya ne peyä 'itan.
I would say "'Eve aftär lu Apxanari, 'evan askien lu I'vawm", because fäpa and kllpa are nouns.
When it comes to the verb kar, Teacher+ìl student+ur objec+it,
"Puvomunìl sì Amhulìl meforu kayeiar fra'uti."
"Puvomun and Amhul will to them two teach everything."

"I'vawm's father did not want this thing which is: his son being a singer, but Puvomun talked with him"
"I'vawmä sempulìl ke nìmew futa peyä 'itan layu rolyu, slä Puvomun pohu pìmlltxe."

I do not like that direct translation to English, maybe you could say something like:
"Set I'vawmä sempulur sunu fwa 'itan sleru rolyu"
"Now I'vawm's father like this thing ; that his son is becoming a singer."

As said, very good! :D
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2011, 09:27:01 am »
Very good (wie immer... ::) )
Are you sure? Perhaps you should check again. ;)  Slä irayo lu ngaru, ma Le'eylan.

The hu, ru and ur are still ultimately conf'yu'sing me... but in a dozen or so years, who knows! :D

I did not use 'skien' and 'ftär' on who is who, as they are 'over each other' in the picture, so I topped and bottomed them instead.
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2011, 11:17:13 am »
Kaltxí! Oe lu Swayana! ;3
Oe solalew vofua zìzìt.
Ulte oeru sa'nok níteng lu, oeru sampul lamu, slã pot yamängom palulukanìl.
Ulte taronyu anawm oe layu!
Oe nìteng tsun nìltsan sivar tskot síìswizawit, oeyä tsko sì oeyä swizaw yawne oeru lu, slä oeru oeyä nikre oeru lu ní'ul yawne, lu lor frato Kelutralmì!
Oe tsun livu nawma 'eve ahí'i.
(pol plltxe futa oeyä txìm lu tsawl nìtxan! Slä fwa ke lu ngay!), slä yawne po lu.
Very good!  ;)
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2011, 11:23:50 am »
Very good!  ;)
Gracias Señorita  :D
You're good, ma 'ewana tsmukan! Kxayla mrr!
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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2011, 04:19:15 pm »
And you're awesome ma tsmukan akoak, liked your work  :D
 Btw I think it's high four   :P  ;D
Zerup sìnklltxe herangham!!
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2011, 06:54:55 pm »
Very good!  ;)
Gracias Señorita  :D
You're good, ma 'ewana tsmukan! Kxayla mrr!
And you're awesome ma tsmukan akoak, liked your work  :D
 Btw I think it's high four   :P  ;D

*Kxayla tsìng*

I HRRH'd at the accents you used for the ä :P

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Re: GMT +1
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2011, 06:54:35 am »
Another option: go for æ.  I'm quite certain it's on your keyboard :P

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