Adposition for "in"

[txura utral]

After viewing the learn Na'vi grammar section on adpositions for the last few days, I have noticed that the adposition for "in" has changed from ni to nì, and then to mì.
I'm pretty sure that the correct one is "nì". Am I correct?
I posted this in the intermediate section because I assumed that the people likely to view the intermediate section may have corresponded with Dr. Frommer, and will have more experience than me regardless of this.

Irayo, sì Eywa ngahu.

[wm.annis]

After viewing the learn Na'vi grammar section on adpositions for the last few days, I have noticed that the adposition for "in" has changed from ni to nì, and then to mì.
I'm pretty sure that the correct one is "nì". Am I correct?

mì is the correct adposition for "in".

[Beduino]

yeah, mì is the correct one.

Now just a correction (I may be wrong, it's more like a question )

you said "Irayo, sì Eywa ngahu."

but in this case, wouldn't it be "ulte", because its connecting two sentences?

"Irayo, ulte Eywa ngahu."

somoene correct me plz

[Taronyu]

Mì is the correct adposition.

Nì-, when attached to a verb, makes an abstract noun. Taron, nìtaron - the hunt.

Ni, as far as I am aware, is not a word.

[txura utral]

yeah, mì is the correct one.

Now just a correction (I may be wrong, it's more like a question )

you said "Irayo, sì Eywa ngahu."

but in this case, wouldn't it be "ulte", because its connecting two sentences?

"Irayo, ulte Eywa ngahu."

somoene correct me plz

Thanks for the information.
As for the difference between "ulte" and "sì", I have not been able to figure that out. I have a nagging feeling that you're correct.

[txura utral]

Additionally, I have a question that I probably know the answer to already. An adposition is put at the beggining of a word, ex: "mìNa'vi" (in Na'vi), no? Or is it put after the word?

[Taronyu]

Additionally, I have a question that I probably know the answer to already. An adposition is put at the beggining of a word, ex: "mìNa'vi" (in Na'vi), no? Or is it put after the word?

An adposition is put before a word. However, the Na'vi corpus is often vague as to whether some adpositions can be affixes, meaning that they could go on either side. As well, I think mì is technically a preposition, which would not be attached to the word.

As for sì and ulte, it's a fairly simple distinction: sì is for joining together nouns, while ulte is used to join together sentences.

I don't know where I know this information from, however.

[omängum fra'uti]

Adpositions can be either.  For example Eywa ngaHU.  Before they are prepositions but may cause lenition.  After they are attached as a suffix.

[edmoreira]

Hi!
Quick comments

Nì-, when attached to a verb, makes an abstract noun. Taron, nìtaron - the hunt.

Isn't it "tì" for the abstract noun? rey=to live tìrey=life

Additionally, I have a question that I probably know the answer to already. An adposition is put at the beggining of a word, ex: "mìNa'vi" (in Na'vi), no? Or is it put after the word?

Not talking about the position but about the difference between mì and nì
my understanding about "in Na'vi" is that when you say for example I speak in Na'vi, you actually make the adverb nìNa'vi as in "I speak Na'vishly!"
So it'd be Oe nìNa'vi plltxe

whereas mì would be more like inside Oe mìkelku = I'm at home or in the house.

As for sì and ulte, it's a fairly simple distinction: sì is for joining together nouns, while ulte is used to join together sentences.
I don't know where I know this information from, however.

Great thanks! I didn't know! I have to go now and check the topic I've just created since I think I put a sì where I should've put an "ulte"

Eywa ayngahu!

ta Etx

[txura utral]

Adpositions can be either.  For example Eywa ngaHU.  Before they are prepositions but may cause lenition.  After they are attached as a suffix.

Okay. So if I were to put "mì" in front of "Na'vi" then it woud be a preposition: "mì Na'vi"?
Or I could put it after as "Na'vimì"

[Deamon5550]

Nì-, when attached to a verb, makes an abstract noun. Taron, nìtaron - the hunt.

Isn't it "tì" for the abstract noun? rey=to live tìrey=life

Yes, I also have tì- as the prefix for abstract nouns, nì- as far as I know is for creating adverbs.

[omängum fra'uti]

Adpositions can be either.  For example Eywa ngaHU.  Before they are prepositions but may cause lenition.  After they are attached as a suffix.

Okay. So if I were to put "mì" in front of "Na'vi" then it woud be a preposition: "mì Na'vi"?
Or I could put it after as "Na'vimì"

Either works with the same meaning, yes, though I struggle to think what "in Na'vi" in that sense would actually mean - it wouldn't be "Na'vi" as the language, it would be take more like "in the people".

[txura utral]

Either works with the same meaning, yes, though I struggle to think what "in Na'vi" in that sense would actually mean - it wouldn't be "Na'vi" as the language, it would be take more like "in the people".

I meant for that to mean "Na'vi" as the language. Is the language not capitalized?

[txura utral]

I apologize for the quote fail above.

[edmoreira]

I meant for that to mean "Na'vi" as the language. Is the language not capitalized?

Well as I said above, what do you really mean "in the Na'vi language"? if you mean to say I speak in Na'vi, then you don't use mì, which means in as in "inside", but nì which makes Na'vi into an adverb that modifies the verb to speak. So Oe nìNa'vi plltxe literallly means I speak Na'vi-ly
Think of mì more as inside instead of in.

Eywa Ngahu
Etx

[txura utral]

I meant for that to mean "Na'vi" as the language. Is the language not capitalized?

Well as I said above, what do you really mean in the Na'vi language? if you mean to say I speak in Na'vi, then you don't use mì, which means in as in inside, but nì which makes Na'vi into an adverb that modifies the verb to speak. So Oe nìNa'vi plltxe literallly mean I speaky Na'vi-ly
Think of mì more as in inside instead of in.

Eywa Ngahu
Etx

That was exactly what was confusing me.
Irayo, tsmuktu.

[omängum fra'uti]

I meant for that to mean "Na'vi" as the language. Is the language not capitalized?

There actually is no word for the "Na'vi language", really.  When you're saying "plltxe nìNa'vi" what you're saying is "Speak like the people".

[edmoreira]

As a side note.
I guess that if you wanted to say "the Na'vi language" for whatever reason you may need to specifically say that, you could say:
"leNa'via tìplltxe" or maybe "tìplltxe Na'viyä"

Just guessing!
Etx

[Coda]

I meant for that to mean "Na'vi" as the language. Is the language not capitalized?

There actually is no word for the "Na'vi language", really.  When you're saying "plltxe nìNa'vi" what you're saying is "Speak like the people".

What about Na'viyä fì'fya?

[omängum fra'uti]

The people's way?

(And there's no glottal stop in fìfya)