Fifi's contest entry - Grammar discussion

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Plumps

Quote from: Tìtstewan on January 13, 2015, 12:10:04 AM
No, sno is a third-person reflexive pronoun. It doesn't work for first or second person. The safe way is Tafral (oe) syaw oer Ftiafpi if you intend to say: I call myself Ftiafpi
I also think that. It may be obvious but it makes sense: if "one (fko) can call to you (oeru) a name" then why shouldn't "I (oe) be able to call to me (oeru) a name" ? ;)


Quote from: Tìtstewan on January 13, 2015, 12:10:04 AMI got the idea to use a completely other construction that would work but I'm not sure if a Na'vi would find that ok:
(Oel) tìng oer tstxot alu Ftiafpi.
I give me the name Frtiafpi.

Isn't that what I said?  ??? ;D

Tìtstewan

Quote from: Plumps on January 13, 2015, 04:25:02 AM
Quote from: Tìtstewan on January 13, 2015, 12:10:04 AM
No, sno is a third-person reflexive pronoun. It doesn't work for first or second person. The safe way is Tafral (oe) syaw oer Ftiafpi if you intend to say: I call myself Ftiafpi
I also think that. It may be obvious but it makes sense: if "one (fko) can call to you (oeru) a name" then why shouldn't "I (oe) be able to call to me (oeru) a name" ? ;)
Such as Oe tsun syivaw oer X ???
I used oe (that one in the bracked) to get a reflexive meaning as one ca't add <äp> in intransitive verbs. I know, that it's "too" literal, but just in case. Of course, fko work perfectly there. :)

Quote from: Plumps on January 13, 2015, 04:25:02 AM
Quote from: Tìtstewan on January 13, 2015, 12:10:04 AMI got the idea to use a completely other construction that would work but I'm not sure if a Na'vi would find that ok:
(Oel) tìng oer tstxot alu Ftiafpi.
I give me the name Frtiafpi.
Isn't that what I said?  ??? ;D
Oh, I didn't realize that you already mentioned that idea. :-[

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Ftiafpi

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Quote from: Tìtstewan on January 13, 2015, 12:10:04 AMI got the idea to use a completely other construction that would work but I'm not sure if a Na'vi would find that ok:
(Oel) tìng oer tstxot alu Ftiafpi.
I give me the name Frtiafpi.

Using tìng makes sense and is closer to what I was trying to say. It provides a sense of origin; that I gave myself the name Ftiafpi and then others started calling me (syaw) by Ftiafpi. I liked the idea of using äp but this is much clearer.

Blue Elf

QuoteAny reason you put hu+ as a suffix rather than before the word? Or was this just your personal preference?
The only reason is well know Eywa ngahu. It looks so well, that Eywa hu nga looks like grammar mistake :)
BTW - hu doesn't cause lenition, nari si!

And I'm glad you see my analysis as useful.
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


Ftiafpi

Quote from: Blue Elf on January 18, 2015, 06:40:34 AM
QuoteAny reason you put hu+ as a suffix rather than before the word? Or was this just your personal preference?
The only reason is well know Eywa ngahu. It looks so well, that Eywa hu nga looks like grammar mistake :)
BTW - hu doesn't cause lenition, nari si!

And I'm glad you see my analysis as useful.

Whoops, yes that is obviously hu- not hu+. Not sure why I wrote the latter...

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