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Blue Elf:

--- Quote from: Tanri on July 10, 2016, 04:16:03 pm ---Personally, I don't like this idea.
The short forms of tsa’u have one single purpose: to make noun-connected subordinate clauses as short and clean as possible:

Palulukan a tsati tsole’a oel trram, lam yehakx oer.

This pronoun - tsa’u/tsaw is unique, because it is used as a replacement of the noun the subordinate clause is connected to. Therefore it's used very often and tends to be shortened as much as possible.
I don't see this kind of motivation for such shortening of another, less frequently used pronoun. Fra’u pronoun does not play an important role in the structure of the main/subordinate clauses.
Also remember the non-standard form of the plural of this demonstrative pronoun (aysa’u/sa’u).

So, as I understand, the pronoun tsa’u and its abbreviated forms is something special and this mechanism should not be freely applied to any other nouns and pronouns.

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All this. I understand forms like tsal, tsat, tsar, tsari more like not abbreviations of tsa'ul, tsa'ut, tsa'ur, tsau'ri (forms of "that thing"), but like forms of "it, that" (so tsa here works not like prefix, but like independent or full word). I don't see any wide and reasonable usage of fraw, fral, frat etc.
Contractions of 'u to w can be seen also in
z<us>a'u + krr (comming time) = zusawkrr (future)
and it's just contraction for better pronunciation. IMHO The same is valid for
fra'u + zo (everything is as it should be) = frawzo (all O.K.)
More similar examples probably do not exist.

No need to search for some hidden magic :)

As of July 31, 2020, this word exists. ;)


--- Quote from: Vawmataw on August 01, 2020, 09:08:09 am ---As of July 31, 2020, this word exists. ;)

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Nìngay, trram karyul Pawl tolìng pumit ayoengur :)


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