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Offline Nessimon

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Re: IPA Confusion
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2010, 07:43:28 am »
Firstly, one of my favorite pages to learn IPA: http://www.yorku.ca/earmstro/ipa/

Secondly, when it comes to the [c]. The [c] sound is to my ears very different from [ʦ]. The palatal plosive ([c]) occurs naturally in my dialect of Norwegian, and as I said, sounds very different from [ʦ]. Therefore it would make a lot of difference if you are supposed to say [c]. Are there any solid conclusions?

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Re: IPA Confusion
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2010, 07:45:19 am »
I think we all agreed that they are quite different, and that [c] has no place in Na'vi phonology or phonetics.

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Re: IPA Confusion
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2010, 07:59:55 am »
Irayo!

That was my understanding too.

But then for another question, according to Wikipedia (and Paul Frommer on the Language Log) u could either be realized as (u) or [ʊ]. How do we know when to use which? Any examples?

My apologies in advance if this question already has been asked!

PS: (u) = u in brackets.

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Re: IPA Confusion
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2010, 08:09:16 am »
We don't know. That's his only mention of it. Annoying, huh.

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Re: IPA Confusion
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2010, 03:27:00 pm »
Very annoying indeed, and strange...

For a language to have only one allophone, is very strange. Like one would assume that a word like tompa (rain), would be realized as [tomba] (two labial stops), especially since it would make no difference in meaning. But hey, it wouldn't be Na'vi if it wasn't a little strange;)

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Re: IPA Confusion
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2010, 03:34:33 pm »
That does happen in some places. not all the time. I forget where, I've marked it down....

 

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