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Started by Eltu Lefngap Makto, January 28, 2012, 02:29:36 PM

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Eltu Lefngap Makto

I'm confused.  There are dictionary entries ham and hay but here
http://naviteri.org/2011/04/%E2%80%99a%E2%80%99awa-li%E2%80%99fyavi-amip%E2%80%94a-few-new-expressions/
K.P. reads as if there are productive suffixes -am and -ay for previous/next.  He provides examples

kintrram
kintrray
muntrram
muntrray
vospxìam
vospxìay

and the dictionary has

txonam
txonay
trram
trray

But does this mean I can roll my own?  Is 'next year' zìsìtay or zìsìt ahayNext seasonNext work-week? 'Last noon'?!  ???
'Ivong, Na'vi!

Tirea Aean

zìsitay is equal to zìsìt ahay. more than one way of saying something is not a crime ;) (compare to fnel and fne-) ;)

Kamean

Quote from: Tirea Aean on January 28, 2012, 02:43:33 PM
zìsitay is equal to zìsìt ahay. more than one way of saying something is not a crime ;) (compare to fnel and fne-) ;)
For example we have allomophs such pefya & fyape. :D
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Kemaweyan

Quote from: Eltu Lefngap Makto on January 28, 2012, 02:29:36 PM
K.P. reads as if there are productive suffixes -am and -ay for previous/next.

Hmm.. I don't remember that Pawl said that these suffixes are productive :-\ I think, for example, utralam does not make any sense. Probably -am/-ay are productive only with nouns which are related to time intervals (day, month, week).
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Tirea Aean

mllte oe Kemaweyanhu.

tho even krram and krray dont make sense. it's hamalo and hayalo aka alo aham, alo ahay

Kemaweyan

Krr does not mean time interval, it's just "time" and it could not be "last" or "next" :)
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Eltu Lefngap Makto

Sooooo ... *kxamtrram and *hama kaym are both legitimate?  ::)
'Ivong, Na'vi!

Kamean

In my opinion hama kaym is possible, but kxamtrram more stilisticaly correct.
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Eltu Lefngap Makto

Irayo.  I too prefer -am and -ay, but it's good to know I wasn't reading this wrong.  :D
'Ivong, Na'vi!

Kamean

Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.