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Offline Alìm Tsamsiyu

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Re: My Dictionary
« Reply #220 on: January 19, 2010, 10:16:29 am »
Hmm, sounds viable, although I think it would translate more directly as "Day which will soon come."  Still works, though.

I like that way better, since it doesn't rely on shaky grammar xD

But we digress- I think it's safe to say that Taronyu shouldn't add in every possible combination of this(noun) and that(noun) since it would be almost as bad as making plural(noun) for everything as well.  Maybe once we've got the entire vocabulary list they can be added (considering the plural form is usually listed for each applicable word in most dictionaries), but I think it would be overly redundant and extremely useless considering all you have to learn is one or two rules about forming such words and you can make them on your own without needing the dictionary to list them.
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Re: My Dictionary
« Reply #221 on: January 19, 2010, 10:18:50 am »
The phrase we've come up with would probably be understood but is probably not right. I imagine that, like most languages, whilst next day and the day that comes are good descriptions for tomorrow, there is an actual word, we just don't know it yet.
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Re: My Dictionary
« Reply #222 on: January 19, 2010, 10:29:01 am »
Right - I was referring to all the various transformations of each word, be it ay+, le+, etc. Those could possibly be added once we've got a more complete list, but for now it would be too redundant and not helpful enough to warrant the action.
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Re: My Dictionary
« Reply #223 on: January 19, 2010, 10:44:05 am »
I agree, it would be absurd to add in all the forms for nouns. And that's only going to get worse once trial forms arrive.
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Re: My Dictionary
« Reply #224 on: January 19, 2010, 11:33:54 am »
• .621 - added tsakem kawnga mungeyu, noted allomorphs of pefya, pelun, fyape, peseng, tupe Mirri

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Re: My Dictionary
« Reply #225 on: January 19, 2010, 04:17:23 pm »
<ay> and <am> are verb infixes, trr is a noun so I'm inclined to go with no. Also, they'd attach before the vowel (rr).
Yes, I know they're for verbs, and yes of course we can go with 'the day past' or 'the coming day' as others have suggested. But since we already have "trram" 'yesterday', and that sure looks like it's based on the root trr, I was just wondering if the -am might be an idiosyncratic use of the infix, not infixed before the vowel because trr is not a verb. If it turns out it is, we might expect tomorrow to be "trray". I'm not suggesting that we make it up, just predicting that it might be there.

P.S.  Unless I'm reading the NYTimes article incorrectly. I have:

    Oe-hu Txewì trram ná’rìng-mì t<arm>ok.
    I-with (name) day.pst? forest-in exist<pst.imfv>
    Yesterday I was with Txewì in the forest
« Last Edit: January 19, 2010, 04:20:30 pm by roger »

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Re: My Dictionary
« Reply #226 on: January 19, 2010, 04:47:06 pm »
There is no canonical transcription for the NYTimes audio clip.  The transcription you're working from represents someone's best guess - so almost by definition you are reading it incorrectly.  Or they are writing it incorrectly.  Or both.

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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #227 on: January 20, 2010, 10:34:44 am »
Version 7 up.

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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #228 on: January 20, 2010, 10:55:27 am »
Damn! I just printed 6.637 for my notebook.  I am killing the planet by printing these out too fast.

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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #229 on: January 20, 2010, 11:08:30 am »
Damn! I just printed 6.637 for my notebook.  I am killing the planet by printing these out too fast.

Keep it. There aren't any real new pages.

You know I haven't printed a single version, yet?

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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #230 on: January 20, 2010, 11:34:07 am »
Is rä'ä getting an update in light of the recent conclusion that it's actually a particle for negative imperatives?
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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #231 on: January 20, 2010, 11:37:51 am »
Damn! I just printed 6.637 for my notebook.  I am killing the planet by printing these out too fast.

Keep it. There aren't any real new pages.

You know I haven't printed a single version, yet?

 That's because you are probably one of the few people on the planet that have the whole thing MEMORIZED, for Deus' sake  ;D

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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #232 on: January 20, 2010, 11:44:16 am »
Damn! I just printed 6.637 for my notebook.  I am killing the planet by printing these out too fast.

Keep it. There aren't any real new pages.

You know I haven't printed a single version, yet?

 That's because you are probably one of the few people on the planet that have the whole thing MEMORIZED, for Deus' sake  ;D

Hell yeah I am. Also, just found out a friend of mine had it downloaded but didn't know I made it. So there's one against you guys saying I am forwarding it too much, haha. I'm going to teach him some Na'vi in an hour! Woot!

Yes, editing rä'ä now. I've issues with this word before, but decided to leave it until something else came forward. Should have brought it myself.  ::)

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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #233 on: January 20, 2010, 12:54:25 pm »
Irayo ma karyu.
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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #234 on: January 20, 2010, 01:54:13 pm »
"Particle for negative imperatives".  Ok, back to the references to see what that means.  :-[

I always matched rä'ä to "don't. Assuming I am not off base, "don't" being the contraction for "do not", is a particle?


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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #235 on: January 20, 2010, 03:22:05 pm »
Everyone who downloaded 7 should download it again. Added a ton of words.

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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #236 on: January 20, 2010, 03:27:07 pm »
Punk.  8)
Peu sa'nokyä ayoengyä?  Pefya ayoeng poeru kìte'e sayi?
Pefya ayoengìl poeti hayawnu, na poel ayoengit hawnu?

What of our mother?  How shall we serve her?  How shall we protect her as she protects us?

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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #237 on: January 20, 2010, 06:02:47 pm »
I always matched rä'ä to "don't. Assuming I am not off base, "don't" being the contraction for "do not", is a particle?
Not in English. But it would appear to be in Na'vi, the way "yes" and "no" are particles in English.

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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #238 on: January 20, 2010, 11:28:21 pm »
found a little typo on IPA of one of our new words: sìlpey [sɪlpɛj]
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Re: Our Dictionary
« Reply #239 on: January 21, 2010, 01:03:44 am »
From the Frommer Letter you can now classify fyawìntxu as a verb as the expected noun form tìfyawìntxu also makes an appearance.
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