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[kewnya txamew'itan]

Kiliyä got an email from Frommer with some new vocab for his midsummer night's dream lines:

sweet = kalin
tongue = ftxì
air = ya
bud = prrnesyul

prrnen = infant, baby
syulang = flower
So "bud" is an obvious compound. (Components are often truncated in Na'vi compounds.)

sick = spxin
disease = säspxin
the state of being ill = tìspxin

yet, still = mi

except = mungwrr ADP- (that is, an adposition that doesn't trigger lenition)

game = uvan
to play = uvan si

No words yet for horned, moon, favor, nor, judge/judgment. Frommer said he'd think about those so we may get them soon.

For "nor," you may be able to get around it by using "or" (fu) with a negative: to do neither A nor B is not to do A or B.

[Keylstxatsmen]

Starting to fill in the stresses for things that are missing (I'm skipping the animal/plant names)

M=movie, F=Dr. Frommer, SM=Song meter (questionable?  but better than nothing, I think)

Starting with ':
'awpo SM
'awve M
'efu F
'ewan F
'eylan F
'ìheyu or 'ìheyu SM
'itan M
'upe M
'upxare F

More to come as I go through it myself.

-Keyl

[Keylstxatsmen]

Starting with a/ä:

aungia M
awnga M
ayfo M
aynga F
ayoe – not sure, he says it in the NYT article but I can't hear a stress. I would assume ayoe
ayoeng M

Basically, adding the ay- does nothing to the stress, I think.

-Keyl

[Graham Simpson]

Aaaand my eBook-friendly derivative is now majorly out of date. I'll get right on it! :3

[Taronyu]

Basically, adding the ay- does nothing to the stress, I think.

No, I don't think so.

I've noticed in a shot of a script that you stress monosyllabic words when they have an inflection (and therefore are polysyllabic), but not otherwise. Should all monosyllabic words be stressed normally?

Yes indeed. I underlined the stressed syllables in polysyllabic words for the actors, so they could pronounce their lines correctly. I've done that in the glossary too for all polysyllabic words.

The rule for inflected verbs is that whatever vowel is stressed in the root keeps its stress in the inflected form. So for example, the root for hunt, as you know, is taron, stress on the first syllable. So all the inflected forms retain stress on the original a of the root: tivaron, tolaron, tayarängon, etc. Cf. pängkxo "chat, converse," where the stress on the ultima. The stress stays there in the inflected forms: pivängkxo, polängkxo, payängkxängo.

The problem with oe is that we have two different stresses from different places, if i recall correctly.

I'll add the vocabulary now, thank Tìkawngä. I have to go to school this week, though, so I don't think I'll get to the rest of the stuff for a bit.

[Eight]

sick = spxin
disease = säspxin
the state of being ill = tìspxin

Finally... I've been waiting for these myself.

Now, can you just tack on "pain"/"suffering" to the list and give me a [very] early christmas?

[omängum fra'uti]

Ngaru tìspxin lu....

[Mirri]

game = uvan
to play = uvan si

YES! I've been waiting for this word ever since I started learning Na'vi!     

[kewnya txamew'itan]

Now I just lost the game.   

What a shame I can't say that in Na'vi until we have a word for lose.

[wm.annis]

Now I just lost the game.   

What a shame I can't say that in Na'vi until we have a word for lose.

Well, you have a work-around of sorts — flä is "succeed."

(Now I have visions of blue Klingons running around shouting tìflä at each other.)

[kewnya txamew'itan]

I was thinking of something along those lines but I wasn't sure.

[Taronyu]

Updated. 8.23

[Lance R. Casey]

There's also reltseotu artist (visual arts) from here. And with that, you may want to take another look at -tu.

[suomichris]

(Now I have visions of blue Klingons running around shouting tìflä at each other.)

Well, dammit, now I do, too :p

[Mirri]

Gah! I missed the most obvious translation until just now:

emza'u: overcome

[tsamsiyu´]

hello i´m Marcel from germany and i have see Avatar now at twice and i think it is the best film evver i see.
i want to learn Naví. so i download a "card file box" to learn, but i see all is in english. and now i read here you can translate your dictionary. so can you help me Taronyu?
yours sincerely Marcel

[Atantsawkeyä]

Kaltxì!

I noticed a small glitch in the Dictionary (v. 8.229).

Noun Inflections: the example for –ìl is Ikran-ìl taron yerikit. Yerik is missing in the translation.

[Mirri]

hello i´m Marcel from germany and i have see Avatar now at twice and i think it is the best film evver i see.
i want to learn Naví. so i download a "card file box" to learn, but i see all is in english. and now i read here you can translate your dictionary. so can you help me Taronyu?
yours sincerely Marcel

Probiert mal das Deutsche Forum: http://forum.learnnavi.org/deutsch-%28german%29/

[donjoe]

Also, "si" does not literally mean "do, make", but it is an auxiliary verb for forming compound verbs.

Then what happens with Neytiri's first line to Tsu'tey: "Ma Tsu'tey, kempe si nga?". Doesn't it still mean "... what are you doing?"? How could it if "si" were only an auxiliary?

[omängum fra'uti]

kem si - use action
kempe si - use what action

So "kem si" may very well be an actual way to say "do", but it seems like it would only be used in cases where the specific action is not known, such as in "kempe si nga".