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Tstewa Ikrantsyìp

Kaltxi ma frapo oeru soaia

Oeru ma tsmukan, ulte ma tsmuke

Oeru syaw 'ewan newey
Oeru syaw Tstewa Ikrantsyìp

rutxe srung oe Kìyin
fpi oeru leNa'vi puk tikangkemvi

LeNa'vi tìkangkemvi oeru za'u ulte kame
ulte

Oe layefpom talun tìtsunslu nga za'u ulte kame oeru puk LeNa'vi  tìkangkemvi

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Ulte
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(Here's the reply I promised you:)

When I began learning Na'vi I realized that taking everything in at once was too much for me, so I decided to study one small piece at a time and make sure I understood it completely. I also figured that the way I know something is correct in English is because I've heard/seen it so many times—it just sounds right. So for Na'vi I decided to create flash cards with examples of the "grammar bits" I was learning and practice them ad nauseum.

I still have a lot to learn, but this has worked for me so far. So, for some examples from your post:

Ma is used to say who you're talking to. The grammar of ma is this: Stick it in front of the names/words for who you're talking to, and only use it once.

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
Kaltxì ma frapo sì oeyä soaia

Ma oeyä tsmukan sì tsmuke

Another grammar bit is possessive pronouns, like oeyä, ngeyä, peyä, etc. (Have a look at Tìtstewan's charts here. The possessive pronouns are the ones labelled GEN for "genitive," the fancy linguistic term for "possessive.") The grammar rules for these are pretty simple: Just stick it next to the word it "owns." Whether it's in front or behind doesn't matter, it means the same thing, so just choose the one that sounds best to you:

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
oeyä soaia
[Or:] soaia oeyä

Oeyä tsmukan sì oeyä tsmuke
[Or:] Tsmukan oeyä sì tsmuke oeyä

oeyä puk LeNa'vi
[Or:] leNa'via puk oeyä

As I said, I created flash cards with little phrases for me to guess and practised them until I was sick of them:
oeyä kelku
kelku oeyä

peyä olo'
olo' peyä

feyä tsray
tsray feyä

and so on...


Other parts of the grammar are a little more complicated, with exceptions you have to learn. An example is using adjectives. To attach an adjective to a noun is easy: stick an a on the side of the adjective that "points" to the noun:

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
leNa'via puk

So I've made a bunch of these, too:
tuna nari
nari atun

tsawla kelku
kelku atsawl

ngima kilvan
kilvan angim

eana txampay
txampay aean

etc. etc. etc.


But there's a couple extra rules for adjectives, which makes learning them a tad more difficult. First, if an adjective starts with le-, then you don't need to use a on the front:

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
leNa'via puk
[BUT:] puk leNa'vi [Not aleNa'vi]

So I've studied flash cards like:
leNa'via lì'fya
lì'fya leNa'vi

lepaya syuve
syuve lepay

lekye'unga tutan
tutan lekye'ung

leskxira tsyokx
tsyokx leskxir

etc.etc.etc.


Actually it's okay to stick a on front of le- (aleNa'vi, alepay, alekye'ung, aleskxir), it's just more normal not to, so this is how I've learned it.

The other rule with adjectives is if an adjective already has the letter a on either side, then don't put two a's, just use one:

tsamsiyu alaksi (not *tsamsiyu aalaksi)
apxa yrrap (not *apxaa yrrap)

As you can see, adjectives are a little trickier. Other parts of the grammar are more complicated.


I started by learning grammar with Na'vi in a Nutshell. I think there's a few errors in it (I don't remember what they were, if there are), but it's mostly good. Study the easier bits before the more complicated ones; for example, practice making plurals (section 2.1) with all the plural prefixes (me+, pxe+, ay+). These cause lenition, so they're trickier, but if you practice them enough it'll be familiar to you.

It takes time, but I'm at the point now where I can spout things off the top of my head without thinking too hard about them, so it's working. :P
"Your work is to discover your world, and then with all your heart give yourself to it."

Tìtstewan

Quote from: Kame Ayyo'koti on February 11, 2015, 07:32:47 AM
Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
Oeyä tsmukan sì oeyä tsmuke
[Or:] Tsmukan oeyä sì tsmuke oeyä
This is also correct:
Ma oeyä tsmukan sì tsmuke. Ma oeyä [tsmukan sì tsmuke]
Ma tsmukan sì tsmuke oeyä. Ma [tsmukan sì tsmuke] oeyä
It's not necessary to repeat oeyä again.

As the Na'vi prefer to use "neutral" words, I would just write, Ma oeyä tsmuk / Ma tsmuk oeyä
Also, if it's meant to address many people, tsmuke/tsmukan/tsmuk would be pluralized to smuke/smukan/smuk.

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Wllìm

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Kaltxì ma Tstewa Ikrantsyìp, as promised in the shoutbox here a more detailed analysis of your post. I hope it's helpful :)

Before you start reading: please don't be discouraged when you see how long my remarks are! I tried to be as elaborate as possible so that you can learn from it as much as possible. Your Na'vi has surely progressed a lot already! :)


Vawmataw

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Warning: Contains much information (more than what you need). ;)
It should help to learn Na'vi and German.

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
Kaltxì ma frapo sì oeyä* soaia

Ma oeyä smukan smuke*

Oeru syaw 'ewan newey
Oeru syaw Tstewa Ikrantsyìp

rutxe srungit oel kìyin*
fpi oeyä tìkangkemvi alu leNa'via puk/puk leNa'vi*.

LeNa'vi tìkangkemvi oeru za'u ulte kame (?)
ulte

Oe 'ayefu nitram talun aynga za'u ulte tse'a oeyä tìkangkemvit alu puk leNa'vi.*

Irayo nìmun
Ulte
Eywa ayngahu

ta Tstewa Ikrantsyìp
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Plumps

Everyone is correcting ... nobody addresses the post ... *sigh*

Ma Tstewa Ikrantsyìp,

as we've already discussed, I am willing to help with the questionaire that you planed for the end of each chapter. I cannot really do more than that. It is your project and if I understood correctly you wanted to collect everything that's out there (learning material, explanation etc.) That's more a case of collecting and sorting than writing, right?

Best ulte hayalovay :)

Tìtstewan

You are right ma plumps. Everyone correcs but i somehow expected that. This thread was created by a suggestion in the shoutbox. As for addressing the post she has already a thread about it and she is simply looking for help. This is of course not a problem. So but one thing is not quite useful for anybody: there has been mentioned suggestions in the shoutbox in that thread and in pms. There is no clear structure of organization as several people has been asked individually. For exaple i have asked her recently who is helping her with that project because i had no idea who is helping her. I got the answer. So yesterday i send a little group pm with my suggestion. Yet i didnt get any response. Meanwhile this thread was born and blue elf just posted his suggestion in the main thread.
Currently the whole thing is chaotic and confusing....

Forgive me my bad text it is a pain to write stuff on a phone...

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Tstewa Ikrantsyìp

Kaltxi (i will only say this for the next week. as ive already memorised it :P)

I first must apologise to all who read. I seem to only be making things worse.
titsewan, this chaotic mess is my fault. also, I did reply to you... did  u not get it??


I thought I was making things better by organising it instead of making it worse....
I will explain... but first:

yes ma plumps, you have been helping me with the questions. which I am thoroughly greatful for. and which I have made titstewan aware of. 

first off, the main reason that I concocted this post and the same post resides in 'mega na'vi booklet' is because
1. I believed, after multiple discussions that I needed more help with this project im working on rather then the 3-4 people currently working on it. 2. however, most of the people I know are also novices and are either busy or unable to help due to other reasons. so.... I thought I might post it in intermediate, but I remembered from a previous post experience in this area, that you can only speak Na'vi here. so I did my best to try and research how to word my plea. unfortunately, as has been proven I was doubtful that I was even close to correct, and so thought that I might post it also in mega Na'vi booklet post so that I may see whether it was correct.

unfortunately it caused more strife than solution i apologise for that... please forgive me.

i will post another soon...

hayalovay

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Quote from: Plumps on February 12, 2015, 05:30:26 AM
Everyone is correcting ... nobody addresses the post ... *sigh*
As Tìtstewan said, Tstewa asked us from the shoutbox to come and correct this post. I don't have the time to commit to helping with her project, and I doubt I could help much anyway, so I didn't see much use in writing a reply to her request. :-\

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 12, 2015, 06:14:55 AM
I thought I might post it in intermediate, but I remembered from a previous post experience in this area, that you can only speak Na'vi here.
Where did you read this? ??? AFAIK English can be spoken in the Intermediate section. nìNa'vi Nì'aw is the Na'vi-only section.
"Your work is to discover your world, and then with all your heart give yourself to it."

Plumps

Quote from: Kame Ayyo'koti on February 12, 2015, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: Plumps on February 12, 2015, 05:30:26 AM
Everyone is correcting ... nobody addresses the post ... *sigh*
As Tìtstewan said, Tstewa asked us from the shoutbox to come and correct this post. I don't have the time to commit to helping with her project, and I doubt I could help much anyway, so I didn't see much use in writing a reply to her request. :-\

No worries ;) If it was spoken about then that's okay. :D
For my part, I don't like the shoutbox that much and don't pay much attention to it. ;)

Kame Ayyo’koti

By the way ma Tstewa, I just remembered these tools (written by Wllìm, I think?) that automatically figure out a lot of affixes for you. For example go to this page and try entering "tsawl". Then enter "lesar", then "apxa". Notice the differences. These tools can maybe help you figure things out.
"Your work is to discover your world, and then with all your heart give yourself to it."

Tstewa Ikrantsyìp

Irayo ma Kame Ayyo'koti
I will have a look at it.

I will doing a more thorough reply to everyone in the next few days. this I give you all my word. for I have read and understand everyone, and have a lot to say.

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Quote from: Kame Ayyo'koti on February 12, 2015, 09:55:15 PM
By the way ma Tstewa, I just remembered these tools (written by Wllìm, I think?) that automatically figure out a lot of affixes for you. For example go to this page and try entering "tsawl". Then enter "lesar", then "apxa". Notice the differences. These tools can maybe help you figure things out.

Irayo ma Kame Ayyo'koti, I have decided to begin using these over the next few days. I appreciate the help.

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Quote from: Plumps on February 12, 2015, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: Kame Ayyo'koti on February 12, 2015, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: Plumps on February 12, 2015, 05:30:26 AM
Everyone is correcting ... nobody addresses the post ... *sigh*
As Tìtstewan said, Tstewa asked us from the shoutbox to come and correct this post. I don't have the time to commit to helping with her project, and I doubt I could help much anyway, so I didn't see much use in writing a reply to her request. :-\

No worries ;) If it was spoken about then that's okay. :D
For my part, I don't like the shoutbox that much and don't pay much attention to it. ;)


I agree ma plumps, but I'm used to the shoutbox and so use it as my first resort if I need to answer a question, it's so much faster than going through multiple different posts and resources and pictures and answers, some posts have 50 pages.
that's what "Mega Na'vi Booklet" project is for, its so people don't have to go looking everywhere, they can just have this resource and have everything they need.
but generally yes, I don't really bother with it either.

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QuoteWhere did you read this? Huh AFAIK English can be spoken in the Intermediate section. nìNa'vi Nì'aw is the Na'vi-only section.

ma Kame Ayyo'koti, it must of been that than.... I feel foolish, caused all this trouble for nothing... But at least it was good practice no?

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QuoteEveryone is correcting ... nobody addresses the post ... *sigh*

Ma Tstewa Ikrantsyìp,

as we've already discussed, I am willing to help with the questionaire that you planed for the end of each chapter. I cannot really do more than that. It is your project and if I understood correctly you wanted to collect everything that's out there (learning material, explanation etc.) That's more a case of collecting and sorting than writing, right?

Best ulte hayalovay Smiley

Thank-you ma plumps, I will most likely be calling on you very soon for some help.. if it's not too much trouble.
I appreciate what you've done so far and am greatful for all you've done, not just in relation to this project but overall, with your advice and points and helpful teaching. :)
irayo.

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Quote from: Vawmataw on February 11, 2015, 06:57:56 PM
Warning: Contains much information (more than what you need). ;)
It should help to learn Na'vi and German.

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
Kaltxì ma frapo sì oeyä* soaia

Ma oeyä smukan smuke*

Oeru syaw 'ewan newey
Oeru syaw Tstewa Ikrantsyìp

rutxe srungit oel kìyin*
fpi oeyä tìkangkemvi alu leNa'via puk/puk leNa'vi*.

LeNa'vi tìkangkemvi oeru za'u ulte kame (?)
ulte

Oe 'ayefu nitram talun aynga za'u ulte tse'a oeyä tìkangkemvit alu puk leNa'vi.*

Irayo nìmun
Ulte
Eywa ayngahu

ta Tstewa Ikrantsyìp

ma Vawmataw, as always an amazing teacher, What you've written up there wasn't too much at all, though I am a bit confused and so am composing a series of questions which I would appreciate you would read if it's not too much trouble.

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Quote from: Wllìm on February 11, 2015, 11:27:20 AM
Kaltxì ma Tstewa Ikrantsyìp, as promised in the shoutbox here a more detailed analysis of your post. I hope it's helpful :)

Before you start reading: please don't be discouraged when you see how long my remarks are! I tried to be as elaborate as possible so that you can learn from it as much as possible. Your Na'vi has surely progressed a lot already! :)


Ma Willm, irayo, as the same as ma Vawmataw, you are always open and free-giving with your advice, your teaching attitude and unending patience is helpful in the extreme. I am so greatful for everyone, and you are just one of so many people I can't thank enough for this.

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Quote from: Kame Ayyo'koti on February 11, 2015, 07:32:47 AM
(Here's the reply I promised you:)

When I began learning Na'vi I realized that taking everything in at once was too much for me, so I decided to study one small piece at a time and make sure I understood it completely. I also figured that the way I know something is correct in English is because I've heard/seen it so many times—it just sounds right. So for Na'vi I decided to create flash cards with examples of the "grammar bits" I was learning and practice them ad nauseum.

I still have a lot to learn, but this has worked for me so far. So, for some examples from your post:

Ma is used to say who you're talking to. The grammar of ma is this: Stick it in front of the names/words for who you're talking to, and only use it once.

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
Kaltxì ma frapo sì oeyä soaia

Ma oeyä tsmukan sì tsmuke

Another grammar bit is possessive pronouns, like oeyä, ngeyä, peyä, etc. (Have a look at Tìtstewan's charts here. The possessive pronouns are the ones labelled GEN for "genitive," the fancy linguistic term for "possessive.") The grammar rules for these are pretty simple: Just stick it next to the word it "owns." Whether it's in front or behind doesn't matter, it means the same thing, so just choose the one that sounds best to you:

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
oeyä soaia
[Or:] soaia oeyä

Oeyä tsmukan sì oeyä tsmuke
[Or:] Tsmukan oeyä sì tsmuke oeyä

oeyä puk LeNa'vi
[Or:] leNa'via puk oeyä

As I said, I created flash cards with little phrases for me to guess and practised them until I was sick of them:
oeyä kelku
kelku oeyä

peyä olo'
olo' peyä

feyä tsray
tsray feyä

and so on...


Other parts of the grammar are a little more complicated, with exceptions you have to learn. An example is using adjectives. To attach an adjective to a noun is easy: stick an a on the side of the adjective that "points" to the noun:

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
leNa'via puk

So I've made a bunch of these, too:
tuna nari
nari atun

tsawla kelku
kelku atsawl

ngima kilvan
kilvan angim

eana txampay
txampay aean

etc. etc. etc.


But there's a couple extra rules for adjectives, which makes learning them a tad more difficult. First, if an adjective starts with le-, then you don't need to use a on the front:

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 11, 2015, 02:41:11 AM
leNa'via puk
[BUT:] puk leNa'vi [Not aleNa'vi]

So I've studied flash cards like:
leNa'via lì'fya
lì'fya leNa'vi

lepaya syuve
syuve lepay

lekye'unga tutan
tutan lekye'ung

leskxira tsyokx
tsyokx leskxir

etc.etc.etc.


Actually it's okay to stick a on front of le- (aleNa'vi, alepay, alekye'ung, aleskxir), it's just more normal not to, so this is how I've learned it.

The other rule with adjectives is if an adjective already has the letter a on either side, then don't put two a's, just use one:

tsamsiyu alaksi (not *tsamsiyu aalaksi)
apxa yrrap (not *apxaa yrrap)

As you can see, adjectives are a little trickier. Other parts of the grammar are more complicated.


I started by learning grammar with Na'vi in a Nutshell. I think there's a few errors in it (I don't remember what they were, if there are), but it's mostly good. Study the easier bits before the more complicated ones; for example, practice making plurals (section 2.1) with all the plural prefixes (me+, pxe+, ay+). These cause lenition, so they're trickier, but if you practice them enough it'll be familiar to you.

It takes time, but I'm at the point now where I can spout things off the top of my head without thinking too hard about them, so it's working. :P

Aaaaah, I understand. Thank-you the flash card idea is good, I will begin using them.
what do you think of a different stack of flash cards for each theme? e.g.
- Flora
- Fauna
- Grammar
- Food
- Music
etc..

have you considered helping Titstewan (If you aren't already) with his great big grammar book. I feel that if you aren't helping already, you would be contributing greatly.
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I will be creating another post soon.
hayalovay
ulte
Eywa ngahu

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Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 26, 2015, 06:32:20 PM
QuoteWhere did you read this? Huh AFAIK English can be spoken in the Intermediate section. nìNa'vi Nì'aw is the Na'vi-only section.

ma Kame Ayyo'koti, it must of been that than.... I feel foolish, caused all this trouble for nothing... But at least it was good practice no?
Nothing wrong with writing nìNa'vi nì'aw. :) I was just noting that English can be spoken in Intermediate. (Intermediate is just the section for more confusing topics.)

You posted here looking for more people to help with your project, but I think the real problem is that so few people hang around LN.org these days. "Human resources" are just limited. There isn't anyone hidden in other corners of the board. :P One possible exception is the international/multilingual section. There appears to be more people there, but they might not speak English. :-\ There's also the Na'vi language section of Tree of Souls, but since I don't go there I dunno if anyone hangs out there that doesn't already hang out here.

Until there's renewed interest in AVATAR, or unless we can coax people to come here, we're pretty much it unfortunately. :-\

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 26, 2015, 06:32:20 PM
Aaaaah, I understand. Thank-you the flash card idea is good, I will begin using them.
what do you think of a different stack of flash cards for each theme? e.g.
- Flora
- Fauna
- Grammar
- Food
- Music
etc..
There's research that says learning words in groups of related terms is better than learning them willy nilly, but it's really up to you. :) Working with the words that you enjoy most might keep you more motivated in the beginning. (With learning Na'vi, for me the beginning was the most frustrating and discouraging. The answer was to just keep going, because I got used to things eventually—but oh man, it sucked. Playing with the words I liked made it more fun.)

Something that made a big difference for me was learning words by connecting them to other words, instead of just learning them "stand alone." Flash cards aren't meant to teach you, they're meant to help you remember. Consider a card that looks like this:


tsray


If you see a card like that, you either know the word, or you don't. Period. When I used cards like this, even after I saw the answer, I would still struggle to remember the word the next time I saw it. I could see a card 5+ times and the next time I studied I wouldn't remember it. It just wouldn't sink in.

I think cards like this are good for testing ("Do I know this word well enough that, if I see it out-of-the-blue, I will know it?"), but not for reinforcing memory.

Compare that to cards like this:


hì'ia tsray


A card like this will help you remember both of those words more easily:

Let's say we know what tsray means, but we've forgotten hì'ia. We can look at it and think this: "Well, hì'ia has an a on the side next to tsray. Adjectives (words that describe something, like "a yellow flower") do that, so it might be 'a something village.' Or in other words, tsray is something that can be hì'i, just like flower is something that can be yellow."

This information is usually enough to remember what hì'i means: "small"
A tsray can be hì'i: A village can be small.

And it works the other way around, too: If we know what hì'i means but forget tsray, we at least know tsray is something that can be small. (Of course, LOTS of things can be small :P, but that's still a lot more information than the first card I showed you: tsray all alone by itself.) Knowing that not only helps you guess the word, but it helps connect the meaning of these two words: the idea tsray and the idea hì'i are two things/words that can go together. Since language is about putting words together, becoming familiar with that kind of information will help you learn the language.

This is how I'm currently learning new vocab, and I find it works exceptionally well. :) Especially if I pair words I already know with new words—the word I know can help me figure out the word I'm learning.

If you go this route, then learning words in related groups would definitely help, like fauna + body parts (ta'leng yerikä, nantangä kxetse, etc.).

Quote from: Tstewa Ikrantsyìp on February 26, 2015, 06:32:20 PM
have you considered helping Titstewan (If you aren't already) with his great big grammar book. I feel that if you aren't helping already, you would be contributing greatly.
As I said to Plumps, I don't have time to commit to any projects right now. :-\ I have ideas for my own projects, but I have little time to devote even to these. I very much want to contribute to learning materials and Na'vi, but life gets in the way.
"Your work is to discover your world, and then with all your heart give yourself to it."

Tstewa Ikrantsyìp

QuoteAs I said to Plumps, I don't have time to commit to any projects right now. Undecided I have ideas for my own projects, but I have little time to devote even to these. I very much want to contribute to learning materials and Na'vi, but life gets in the way.

I completely agree, I am soooo busy, so stressed. I don't know what to do, I'm like a chook running around with it's head chopped off I'm studying for my final year 12 exams, I have assignments and homework by the truckload, I have the MNB project for the community to work on, I'm already falling behind on my 'weekly poems' posts.
I have my fanfiction that I haven't updated since last year.
I have books that I brought from between 6 days ago to 6 months ago piling up that I haven't read.
I'm trying to lose weight, which isn't of-itself stressful, but it is bothersome.
I have a series of videos and other things I've been trying to download for the last few days, which means I'm losing time for other stuff.
I'm trying to get my P plates
I haven't done any jewellery making for weeks.
not to mention that dads wants me to get a job so I'm also searching around.
plus, lets not forget all the small day to day stress' that everybody experiences, like catching the bus after you've slept in
forgetting to do homework and having to do a quick version... there's so much...

I haven't done anything today, I've just been organising the Friday club for all the espurges kids today. I haven't had time for anything above at all whatsoever for at least a fortnight.

but I'm going to organise it...
I'm going home this afternoon and I'm going to be doing a homework, reading, jewellery marathon...
for the next few days I'll also be trying to get in a few hours driving so I can work toward my P plates before I turn 18 in September.
I'm going to update that fanfiction, hopefully in the next week, so I'm seriously doubting it...
any long term progress on the MNB project has to wait till a have a group of days together, like 2 weeks holiday after term, because otherwise I just can't do anything.
proper exercise every afternoon.
Honestly, and these are just the MAJOR stresses in my life, not to mention all the itty bitty worries in my life like family issues... I can't wait till I finish school. OMG...

But I'm determined. I will start catching up. on everything.
But I digress.
the point of the matter is, yes. life does get in the way. HRH!!!

anytime you want any help with anything. contact me. :)
kiyevame
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ta Tstewa Ikrantsyìp
Mega - Na'vi - Booklet - Project (One Book to Rule Them All)
Unofficial Na'vi survey
Na'vi - Sign - Language - Project

Na'vi - Language - Book - Project

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Kaltxì ma frapo, ma oeyä soaìa

I've written a list below of all the chapters that are in this project. Each chapter needs attention. The point of this is that if you want to help, you can choose which area you want to help with, and what you can do, most people don't know what they can do to help, this way you have an idea of what has to be done and where it is and you might have ideas for any different areas.

I've uploaded the chapters and content, even if you don't have any time to help, or if you don't know what to help with or whatever your reasons are, if you look through this an just have a random idea for one of the chapters for any random area, you can message me or reply or anything.

If you do want to help, I will be making a list of people/s who are, have or will be helping or participating so if someone needs to know who's doing what, they can look at that list, that will be in the next post.

I will also be uploading (in this post) the list of people and materials used, being used, or will be used. If you see something you don't agree with, if you've helped and your name isn't there, if there's a material you think you should be there, or really anything at all, then again, reply, or post or anything to get my attention.

The reason I'm doing all of this is because I'm studying for my final exams for year 12, plus I have assignments, homework and extra-curricular studies, not to mention a large list of other things I'm working on. Id appreciate some help, but nobody has to or anything...

Uuum, I guess that's it for now.
Oooh, also. In reference to the Pawl Karyu blog, I have decided what I'm going to do. Titstewan if you have time, or if you just want to hear what I'm thinking of, just give me a shout-out.

p.s. This post will also be copied. This post will be in "Mega Na'vi Booklet" and "Oe Kin Srung"


QuoteWho are the  Na'vi?
Alphabet and Phonetics
Pronunciation & Dialectology
Language & Phrases
Slang and Na'vi terms
Basic Na'vi Grammar
Advanced Na'vi Grammar
Na'vi Math & Numbers
Society Of The Na'vi
Na'vi life style
Na'vi History & Culture
Flora & Fauna
Na'vi Geography
Pandoran Environment
Avatar Movie Aspects
Activities, quizzes & learning materials
Video & Audio
Karyu Pawl's Blog


Opinions?
P.S.S the resources isn't complete, in fact I haven't had the time to do much on it, feel free to add stuff and send it back to me :)
the credits list isn't complete either, same rule goes; feel free to add, comment or change and send it straight back to me. Anything helps.


Hayalovay
Ulte
Eywa ngahu

Ta Tstewa Ikrantsyìp
Mega - Na'vi - Booklet - Project (One Book to Rule Them All)
Unofficial Na'vi survey
Na'vi - Sign - Language - Project

Na'vi - Language - Book - Project