Confused about nìtram

[Lrrtoksì nìhawng]

As I understand it, nìtram means the same thing as lefpom but is for people only. I think follows the same rules as sevin vs. lor, but then we have phrases like, "Ngaru lu fpom srak?" So is this phrase wrong, a special exception, or am I just not getting it? Maybe the nominal form can swing both ways but it can't as an adjective/adverb?

[NeotrekkerZ]

My take on this is that ngaru lu fpom srak means do you have peace/joy, not are you at peace (ngaru not nga is the indicator).  Since you "have it" and not "are it" you use the nfp word.

[Unil Akawng]

Maybe the nominal form can swing both ways but it can't as an adjective/adverb?

Also, please mind that it's nitram, and so in all probability not an adverb, but strictly an adjective.

[Lrrtoksì nìhawng]

Ah! That clears things up! When I first saw it explained it was spelled nìtram. I would have been confused anyway, but that didn't help. So if I got this right:

"We are peaceful," would be the nitram case, "Awnga lu nitram."

"We bring you peace," would be the fpom case, "Awngal zamunge fpomìt ngaru."

Not so sure about this one:

"We come in peace," would be, "Awnga za'u nìnitram."

That looks weird to me, but that might just be because I thought it was an adverb until a few minutes ago.

[roger]

"We are peaceful" would presumably use lefpom, as would "we come in peace". The point is that we don't use lefpom to mean "happy" for people: it means "happy" of occasions, like shalom / salaam. So you might wish s.o. a lefpom (peaceful/happy) journey; you wouldn't wish them a *nitram journey. But you could say you're nitram their journey was lefpom.

[Keylstxatsmen]

"We are peaceful" would presumably use lefpom.

I'm not sure about that; Dr. Frommer said it is "nfp" in multiple spots, and I think he was talking about all senses:
Tsa'u ke law oeru; pxaya hrr Karyu Pawl poltxe teri fwa "lefpom" ke tsivun sivar fpi aysute, ulte oel fpìl futa peyä ral lu nìngay "kawkrr":

Lefpom is nfp (not for people)

lefpom: happy, peaceful, joyous (not for people)

-Keyl

[Lrrtoksì nìhawng]

I can understand now how fpom would be reserved for objects/events, which would include a celebration. I was just wondering if nitram could carry over to describing actions being performed by people.

Ayfo srerew nìnitram fpi fìftxozä alefpom.

[NeotrekkerZ]

I'd say you're right on there, as the happily describes your physical state as you are dancing