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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #100 on: August 19, 2014, 01:04:04 am »
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #101 on: August 19, 2014, 01:59:48 am »
Aysìleykusatemìri nari si! ;D

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2014, 06:45:19 am »
Aysìleykusatemìri nari si! ;D
Zamene oe ivinan pxelo tsalì'ut, alu "aysìleykusatemìri", fte tslivam... ::)
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #103 on: August 19, 2014, 09:47:10 am »
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ay-sìl<eyk><us>atem-ìri

I don't know if that is allowed - <eyk> in gerunds (I've asked Pawl about it last weekend, still wait for a response.)

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #104 on: August 19, 2014, 09:52:01 am »
ay+tì-l<eyk><us>atem-ìri
Wou, sran, lots of affixes. I knew it right away, but then again I've been at it since nearly 5 years :D the more you practice and use Na'vi language, the more easily such words are recognized and understood :)

Edit: ninja points to Tìtstewan.

Ma Tìtstewan, I think it depends on if leykatem is its own entity. is leykatem a root, or is it considered nothing more than latem with <eyk>?same applies to zeyko, I think. Somewhere, I thought I remember pawl and others saying that leykatem and zeyko are separate lexical items as if they are roots. But I could be wrong. If leykatem is treated as a root, then I'd say yeah, making a gerund of it is possible. But for now, we KNOW it is allowed to say tìlusatem.

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #105 on: August 19, 2014, 09:56:35 am »
But for now, we KNOW it is allowed to say tìlusatem.
Kop, oeru fìlì'u lu nì'ul fyin. ;)
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #106 on: August 19, 2014, 10:13:09 am »
ay+tì-l<eyk><us>atem-ìri
Wou, sran, lots of affixes. I knew it right away, but then again I've been at it since nearly 5 years :D the more you practice and use Na'vi language, the more easily such words are recognized and understood :)
Ngaru tìyawr. :)

Edit: ninja points to Tìtstewan.
HRH Irayo! ;D

Ma Tìtstewan, I think it depends on if leykatem is its own entity. is leykatem a root, or is it considered nothing more than latem with <eyk>?same applies to zeyko, I think. Somewhere, I thought I remember pawl and others saying that leykatem and zeyko are separate lexical items as if they are roots. But I could be wrong. If leykatem is treated as a root, then I'd say yeah, making a gerund of it is possible. But for now, we KNOW it is allowed to say tìlusatem.
No. Zeyko or leykatem has it own meaning but they are NOT roots.
Pawl's comment on Na'viteri about that:
July 17, 2010 at 10:53 am
@Kemaweyan: Ngeyä tìpawmìri irayo, ma Kemaweyan. Nìngay lu ngar tìyawr, lu ngar tìkxey.
Tsalì’uri alu zeyko lu kemlì’uvi (lì’u atxantsan nang!) mì kamtseng: z-eyk-o . . . Ha lu lì’u letrrtrr nì’aw.
Oel lumpe tsat solung mì upxare? Fte wivìntxu futa lesar lu fìlì’u nìtxan. Tsalsungay
tsalì’u alu zeykuso lu eyawr. Slä zene fko pivlltxe san zäpeyko sìk. (*Zeykäpo lu keyawr.)
Ulte kawkrr ke tsun fko pivlltxe san *zeykeyko!

Kemaweyan asked a good question, so let me explain this in English so it’s available to more people.
He noted that zeyko appears to be a garden-variety derivative of zo, with the
causative infix -eyk- added: zeyko = z-eyk-o. If that’s true, then why give it
a special place in the vocabulary? This led Kemaweyan to speculate it might
actually be a separate lexical item not derived via -eyk-, which could then lead to a form like *zeykeyko.
K.’s first impression was correct: zeyko is just the causative form of zo. I called it out only to
emphasize its usefulness: it’s the standard way to say “fix” or “heal.”
But he’s right: It didn’t have to be included.

The question of how the “pre-first position” infixes relate to each other and
to the rest of the infix inventory is important, so I’ll save it for a future post.

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #107 on: August 19, 2014, 10:22:02 am »
Ohh yeah. That's what it was. These are NOT treated as roots. So yeah, tìleykusatem is in question then.

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #108 on: August 20, 2014, 07:57:30 pm »
Ma frapo, fìtsenge fnu. Pivängkxo ko! :)
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #109 on: August 21, 2014, 12:52:35 am »
Peteleteri ayoeng zene pivlltxe natkenong?

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #110 on: August 21, 2014, 04:06:31 am »
Peteleteri ayoeng zene pivlltxe natkenong?
Fì'u lu tìngäzìk. Zun oel ivomum txeleti, zel oe pivlltxe tsatxeleteri :D
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #111 on: August 21, 2014, 07:14:09 am »
Oe ke omum.  :-[
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #112 on: August 21, 2014, 07:18:07 pm »
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Txanro'a tìngäzik nimun. Frapo fnu taluna ke lu kea txele a lu pxan tìpängkxofpi. Keftxo :(

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #113 on: August 21, 2014, 08:00:55 pm »
Txanro'a tìngäzik nimun. Frapo fnu taluna ke lu kea txele a lu pxan tìpängkxofpi. Keftxo
Fìsäplltxe lu eyawr.

Tse, oe 'efu ngeyn nì'it slä ke new hivahaw. Trray ke zene oe tikangkem sivi.
Ha trray layu trr amuiä fte syivor fu hivahaw.  ;)
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #114 on: August 27, 2014, 06:30:33 pm »
Pivängkxo ko! Pet(x)eleteri aynga new pivängkxo?
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #115 on: August 28, 2014, 01:24:21 am »
Tìpangkxoteri tìfkeytok kifkeyä! ;)

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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #116 on: August 28, 2014, 06:23:15 am »
pangkxo teri tìfkeytok kifkeyä! ;)

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Ke omum oel tsengit a sngä'i... ;)
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« Reply #117 on: August 28, 2014, 07:42:10 am »
Pivängkxo teri tìfkeytok kifkeyä ko! ;)
Frawzo. Fa aysam sì tìtxanew ayeyktanìl awngeyä ska'a kìfkeyit.
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #118 on: August 28, 2014, 07:58:01 am »
Frawzo. Fa aysam sì tìtxanew ayeyktanìl awngeyä ska'a kìfkeyit.

Tse, tsa'u längu vurvi asìltsan... :(
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Re: Pivängkxo nìNa'vi ko! - Intermediate Na'vi Chat Thread!
« Reply #119 on: August 28, 2014, 08:14:39 am »
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