More stuff for the noobs

Skxawng · February 17, 2010, 11:46:32 PM

Had the idea to make a flowchart for inflecting verbs, and for changing word types. Probably needs some correction, and I'd be real appreciative if y'all would have a look over this and tell me if I've lived up to my namesake

I'll fix stuff before posting it in the beginner section.

kxanì tsamsiyu · February 18, 2010, 09:06:38 AM

This is a Great idea. I wish i couple help and point out things that are wrong but i am still a Newbie to Na'vi Despite having quite a few posts. College has posponed my learning.

This would definatly help my Studies of Na'vi so this would be a HUGE help.

Irayo

Eywa Ngahu

Nyx · February 18, 2010, 09:44:17 AM

Did you just use the word "verb" as a verb in an attempt to teach grammar?

I might return with more constructive feedback when my head has recovered from the exam I just took. I like the look of this though ^^

C'tri Atan'itan · February 18, 2010, 03:20:21 PM

speaking as a newbie, I find it easier to follow the top chart than the second

(though some more information/ explanation on the chart + maybe some case examples

)

~C'tri

Skxawng · February 18, 2010, 03:36:57 PM

The second one is a little bit more complex than the first

That said I'm working on a way to simplify and smooth the flow.

Will Txankamuse · February 18, 2010, 05:36:33 PM

I like it. One suggestion for the first would be to represent this in a different way. Perhaps having three circles each one representing the base grammar types with arrows linking them annotated with the thing to do to move between them...

well they say a picture says a 1000 words but mine probably says around 3 words since I'm very very bad with paint but here goes:

Will

Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn · February 18, 2010, 06:30:41 PM

Teltseotu nga ke lu ma Will.

NeotrekkerZ · February 18, 2010, 08:45:06 PM

Under the "Hypothetical" box, if you were to answer "no" you could also have <ol> have verbed.

Regarding the use of <ilv>, I think the past subjunctive is "had verbed." E.g. Txo oe kilvä ne Kelutral...

Other than that, I like it. Very clear. And your word type flowchart is awesome.

EDIT: Maybe a box for combing a verb with a modal?

wm.annis · February 18, 2010, 08:51:53 PM

Quote from: NeotrekkerZ on February 18, 2010, 08:45:06 PMRegarding the use of <ilv>, I think the past subjunctive is "had verbed."

But ‹ilv› is not the past subjunctive. It is the perfective subjunctive — a different beast (even if it's hard to make that distinction clear in normal English).

NeotrekkerZ · February 18, 2010, 08:57:33 PM

Like I said, a bit fuzzy there. Do we have an infix for my sentence above?

wm.annis · February 18, 2010, 09:08:48 PM

Quote from: NeotrekkerZ on February 18, 2010, 08:57:33 PMLike I said, a bit fuzzy there. Do we have an infix for my sentence above?

Your clause is the condition part of a past contrary-to-fact condition. I have no clue how that'll work in Na'vi right now.

Kayrìlien · February 19, 2010, 02:04:36 AM

Quote from: Skxawng on February 18, 2010, 03:36:57 PM
The second one is a little bit more complex than the first

That said I'm working on a way to simplify and smooth the flow.

It might be a bit more complex, but the commentary makes it infinitely more fun to use than the first. Definitely going in my Big Ol' Book O' Na'vi Stuff.

Irayo,

Kayrìlien

Erimeyz · February 19, 2010, 07:46:42 AM

I really like the hand-drawn look.

Really, really, like it.