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Mech:
In the dictionary I noticed a group of verbs that start with em- but otherwise have obvious etymology

emkä (cross) from kä
emrey (survive) from rey
emza’u (pass a test, overcome) from za'u

The em- must be an ancient/obsolete or otherwise undocumented element, perhaps a preposition meaning "over, through" or something.

The official dictionary has a note with which I disagree (unless we have an official explanation about it): it says that emkä is a compound of emza’u and kä. I don't see a logic for this, nor a trace of za'u. In all three cases it seems to be just em- + verb root.

Toliman:
Interesting idea!


--- Quote from: Mech on September 20, 2018, 08:59:29 am ---The official dictionary has a note with which I disagree (unless we have an official explanation about it): it says that emkä is a compound of emza’u and kä. I don't see a logic for this, nor a trace of za'u. In all three cases it seems to be just em- + verb root.

--- End quote ---
Yeah, this looks logical. I would agree with you.

Tirea Aean:
insert

ta'em

here

EDIT: also, emrey

Mech:
Hmmm ta'em (from above) would mean that 'em or em is a root for "above" but the tìftang doesn't fit with the verbs.

Tirea Aean:
we used to deduce that 'em is "above" from "ta'em" before we knew it as "to cook". (This was in the same ASG era as when "kxener" used to be some kind of fruit or vegetable instead of "smoke" and kì'ong was known as some fruit or vegetable as well instead of "slow")

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